How to draw a curve in polar coordinates?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for drawing curves in polar coordinates, including both hand-drawing techniques and the use of calculus concepts such as derivatives to analyze the behavior of the curves.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks resources for drawing curves in polar coordinates and suggests starting with a sine curve to visualize the transformation to polar coordinates.
  • Another participant proposes using derivatives (dr/dθ) to determine where the radius r is increasing or decreasing, and discusses the implications of critical points on the smoothness of the curve.
  • There is mention of needing to consider more than one period for certain functions, such as sin(4θ), to fully understand the behavior of the curve.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the use of derivatives to analyze curves, but the discussion remains open regarding the best methods for drawing and understanding polar curves, with no consensus reached on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of using derivatives in this context, nor have they established a definitive method for drawing polar curves that accounts for all scenarios.

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Hi all

I'm trying to find out how to draw a curve in polar coordinates. Can anyone help me with a book or something and help me find out how to draw curves in polar coordinates?
 
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AdrianZ said:
Hi all

I'm trying to find out how to draw a curve in polar coordinates. Can anyone help me with a book or something and help me find out how to draw curves in polar coordinates?

I presume you want to sketch it by hand. Suppose you are trying to draw the graph in polar coordinates of r = sin(θ) + 1/2. First make a freehand sketch of y = sin(x) + 1/2, which is just an ordinary sine curve moved up by 1/2. You don't need to plug in any values; just make a nice looking sine curve drawn approximately to scale. You are going to use this sketch as a free-hand "table of values". Now draw a piece of polar coordinate paper which is just an xy axis with lines radiating from the origin every 30°.

Next, you visually transfer the y values from your xy graph to r values on your polar graph. So, for θ = 0 you notice your y value is positive so go the same distance in the r direction on the line θ = 0 and mark a point. Do the same thing for θ = 30°, 60°, and so on. You will see how the arches on the xy graph determine loops on the polar graph. You will have some negative values which plot in the negative r direction giving an inside loop. Once you have done a couple of these you will have the idea and will be ready to try other examples in your book.

Finally, if you need a really accurate graphs, you can use the exact values of the common angles instead of eyeballing it.
 
Actually I was thinking about doing the same. Can I use derivatives as well? like I take dr/dθ and see where it's positive or negative and find the critical points? I think when dr/dθ is positive that means that when I rotate counter-clockwise r is increasing and when It's negative it means the opposite. in critical points when the derivative becomes zero it means that the behavior of r is changing, like it stops increasing and starts decreasing instead or the opposite. if the derivative didn't exist that means the curve at that point won't be smooth, it'll be something like a curvy V. am I right?
and can I say that if I draw the curve for one period, I'll have a clue of how the curve behaves in other points?
 
AdrianZ said:
Actually I was thinking about doing the same. Can I use derivatives as well? like I take dr/dθ and see where it's positive or negative and find the critical points? I think when dr/dθ is positive that means that when I rotate counter-clockwise r is increasing and when It's negative it means the opposite. in critical points when the derivative becomes zero it means that the behavior of r is changing, like it stops increasing and starts decreasing instead or the opposite. if the derivative didn't exist that means the curve at that point won't be smooth, it'll be something like a curvy V. am I right?
and can I say that if I draw the curve for one period, I'll have a clue of how the curve behaves in other points?

Yes, I pretty much agree with all of that. Of course, you will need more than one period for fiumctions like sin(4θ) but, yes, one loop of a multi-leafed rose is much like any other.
 

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