How to Find C Coordinates if OA + BA + CA is Perpendicular to OB

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The problem involves finding the coordinates of point C on line OB, where O is the origin, given points A(1,7) and B(8,3). The condition is that the vector sum OA + BA + CA must be perpendicular to vector OB.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the dot product to establish the perpendicularity condition. There are questions about the correctness of the original question and the provided answers. Some participants express confusion over the calculations and seek clarification on specific steps.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the validity of the answers provided. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the dot product, but there is no consensus on the correct coordinates for point C.

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There are indications of potential errors in the problem statement or the provided answers, as some participants question the feasibility of the coordinates given in the book. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the setup and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



Given A(1,7) and B(8,3). C lies on OB where O is the origin. If vector OA + BA + CA is perpendicular to vector OB, find the coordinates of C.


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The answer i get is C=(112/73 , 42/73) but the answer given is (-71/2 , 195/7). What answer do you get? :smile:
 
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Have you messed up in writing out this question?
 
I agree, I think you may have written something wrong there.

The easiest way is using the dot product, as (OA+OB+OC) . (OB) = 0, then you'd get two equations, one for each C co-ordinate, that'd be easy to solve.

However I don't get the answer you say you were given.
 
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I agree, I think you may have written something wrong there.

The easiest way is using the dot product, as (OA+OB+OC) . (OB) = 0, then you'd get two equations, one for each C co-ordinate, that'd be easy to solve.

However I don't get the answer you say you were given.

Why (OA+OB+OC) . (OB) = 0?

What's wrong with the question? Here is how i do.. probably someone can check it out for me...

C lies on OB, so C = k(8,3)

BA = OA-OB = (-7,4)

CA= OA-OC = (1-8k, 7-3k)

OA + BA + CA = (-5-8k, 18-3k)

OA + BA + CA is perpendicular to vector OB, so

OA + BA + CA . OB = 0

(-5-8k, 18-3k) . (8,3)=0

-8(5+8k) + 3(18-3k) = 0

k= 14/73

So C = k(8,3) = 14/73 . (8,3)

Which step have i go wrong?
 
Michael_Light said:
What's wrong with the question?
The question is okay. I was expecting a more common question, a little simpler. :smile:
 
The book's answer can't be correct. OB is in the first quadrant, so no point on it has an x-coordinate with a negative value. I reckon you could easily plot this exercise on graph paper, and determine the point C with sufficient accuracy to confirm (or not) your answer.

I looked at this, and found C as (232/73, 87/73) , just fractionally more than double what you calculated. I haven't checked my working though.
 

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