How to find speed with just height given?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a roller coaster design, specifically focusing on calculating the speed of the cars at the bottom of a valley given an initial height, as well as determining the radius of curvature required for passengers to experience specific forces at different points on the ride.

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  • Participants explore energy conservation principles to find the speed at the bottom of the valley and question the implications of the given conditions, such as the absence of friction. There are attempts to relate speed, radius of curvature, and acceleration, particularly in the context of forces experienced by passengers.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the speed at the bottom of the valley, while others are questioning the appropriateness of the equations used for determining the radius of curvature. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the forces experienced by passengers, particularly regarding the meaning of "8g."

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The problem includes specific conditions such as neglecting friction and requires understanding of forces experienced by passengers at different points on the roller coaster. There is a reference to a provided picture that may aid in visualizing the problem setup.

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you are to design a roller coaster in which cars start from rest at a height h=26.0 m , roll down into a valley and then up a mountain. neglect friction.

a) what is the speed of the cars at the bottom of the valley?

B)if the passangers are to feel 8g at the bottom of the valley, what must be the radius R of the arc of the circle that fits the bottom of the valley?

c)the top of the next mountain is an arc of the circle of the same radius R. if the passengers are to feel 0g at the top what must be its height h?

there is a given picture, I do not know where to start.
 

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You're told there's no friction. What equation does that allow you to write down wrt energy?
When you've worked out the speed at the bottom, do you have an equation relating speed, radius of curvature and acceleration?
 
v^2=2gh
sqrt(2*9.81*26)=22.5 m/s

for part b I tried to use M=rv^2/g but the radius ended to be too small.
 
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Sneakatone said:
for part b I tried to use M=rv^2/g but the radius ended to be too small.
That's a strange looking equation. What's M? It seems to have dimensions of area.
 
Sneakatone said:
v^2=2gh
sqrt(2*9.81*26)=22.5 m/s
Correct.

Sneakatone said:
for part b I tried to use M=rv^2/g but the radius ended to be too small.
What 8g means?
 

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