How to normalize Schrodinger equation

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The discussion revolves around normalizing the wave function derived from the Schrodinger equation, specifically psi = Asin(pi*x/a) for -a <= x <= a and psi = 0 for absolute x > a. The normalization condition requires the integral of psi squared over all space to equal one. Participants clarify that the integral of the wave function from -∞ to +∞ is zero because it is an odd function, leading to confusion about the normalization process. The conversation also touches on the use of trigonometric identities to simplify the integration, emphasizing the importance of understanding function properties in quantum mechanics. Overall, the normalization of the wave function is a key focus in ensuring accurate quantum mechanical descriptions.
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Homework Statement



The solution to the Schrodinger equation for a particular potential is psi = 0 for absolute x > a and psi = Asin(pi*x/a) for -a <= x <= a, where A and a are constants. In terms of a, what value of A is required to normalize psi?

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psi = 0 for absolute value of > a
psi = Asin(pi*x/a) for -a<= x <= a

The Attempt at a Solution



The textbook gave the normalization as:

[integral] psi^2 dx = 1. The integral has upper limit positive infinity and lower limit negative infinity.

Can I just start by taking the integral of both sides of psi = Asin(pi*x/a)?

which makes psi = A-cos(pi*x/a) * pi*x^2/(2a)?
 
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warnexus said:

Homework Statement



The solution to the Schrodinger equation for a particular potential is psi = 0 for absolute x > a and psi = Asin(pi*x/a) for -a <= x <= a, where A and a are constants. In terms of a, what value of A is required to normalize psi?

Homework Equations



psi = 0 for absolute value of > a
psi = Asin(pi*x/a) for -a<= x <= a

The Attempt at a Solution



The textbook gave the normalization as:

[integral] psi^2 dx = 1. The integral has upper limit positive infinity and lower limit negative infinity.

Can I just start by taking the integral of both sides of psi = Asin(pi*x/a)?

which makes psi = A-cos(pi*x/a) * pi*x^2/(2a)?
No.

The integral of ψ(x) from -∞ to +∞ is zero. After all, ψ(x) is an odd function.

(ψ(x))2 ≥ 0 for all x and it's greater than zero for some values of x, so its integral is definitely positive.
 
SammyS said:
No.

The integral of ψ(x) from -∞ to +∞ is zero. After all, ψ(x) is an odd function.

(ψ(x))2 ≥ 0 for all x and it's greater than zero for some values of x, so its integral is definitely positive.

How did you know the integral is zero. Why is psi an odd function?
 
warnexus said:
How did you know the integral is zero. Why is psi an odd function?
\displaystyle \Psi(x)=A\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{a}\right)

Therefore, \displaystyle \ \Psi(-x)=-\Psi(x)\,,\ so \displaystyle \ \Psi(x)\ is odd.

That's pretty much beside the point except that it definitely shows that in general, \displaystyle \ \int \left(f(x)\right)^2\,dx\ne\left(\,\int f(x)\,dx\right)^2\ .

Solving your integral may be made easier by noting that \displaystyle \ \cos(2\theta)=1-2\sin^2(\theta) \ .\ \ And solving for sin2(θ) gives \displaystyle \ \sin^2(\theta)=\frac{1-\cos(2\theta)}{2} \ . \
 
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SammyS said:
\displaystyle \Psi(x)=A\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{a}\right)

Therefore, \displaystyle \ \Psi(-x)=-\Psi(x)\,,\ so \displaystyle \ \Psi(x)=\ is odd.

That's pretty much beside the point except that it definitely shows that in general, \displaystyle \ \int \left(f(x)\right)^2\,dx\ne\left(\,\int f(x)\,dx\right)^2\ .

Solving your integral may be made easier by noting that \displaystyle \ \cos(2\theta)=1-2\sin^2(\theta) \ .\ \ And solving for sin2(θ) gives \displaystyle \ \sin^2(\theta)=\frac{1-\cos(2\theta)}{2} \ . \

I know I stated -a<= x <= a. But x can be positive or negative. How did you know to choose x to be negative?

How is cos(2θ)=1−2sin2(θ)? I don't remember this being a trig identity. I am weak in math.
 
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