How to Simplify This Complex Double Integral Equation?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around simplifying a complex double integral involving exponential functions and a function F dependent on the sum of two variables, X and Y. The integral is defined over the positive real numbers and includes parameters such as constants alpha and beta, as well as non-negative integers d and e.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to simplify the integral by changing variables, specifically using X + Y = V and Y = U, and questions the correctness of their approach. They seek clarification on the number of integrals resulting from this substitution.
  • Some participants confirm the validity of the original poster's variable substitution and suggest using the binomial theorem to further simplify the expression.
  • Others express concern about the presence of the variable U in the final expression, noting that it should not appear in the final answer.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the integral. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the binomial theorem and the separation of integrals, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward, as participants continue to question the implications of their steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. There is also a focus on ensuring that the final expression aligns with the expected outcome, which does not include certain variables.

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Homework Statement


Help needed in simplifying this one
$$\left[\int\limits_0^{Inf} {\int\limits_0^{Inf} {{e^{ - \alpha X - \beta Y}} \cdot F(X + Y + c)} } \cdot {X^d} \cdot {Y^e} \cdot dX \cdot dY\right]$$ is equal to

$$\left[\sum\limits_{i = 0}^d {d{C_k} \cdot } {( - 1)^{d - i}} \cdot \left[ {\left( {\frac{{factorial(d + e - i)}}{{{{(\beta - \alpha )}^{d + e - i + 1}}}} \cdot \{ \int\limits_0^{Inf} {{\operatorname{e} ^{\alpha t}} \cdot F(t + c) \cdot {t^i} \cdot dt)} \} } \right) - \left( {\sum\limits_{j = 0}^{d + e - i} {\frac{{S(d + e - i,j - 1)}}{{{{(\beta - \alpha )}^{j + 1}}}}} \cdot \{ \int\limits_0^{Inf} {{\operatorname{e} ^{\beta t}} \cdot F(t + c) \cdot {t^{d + e - j}} \cdot dt)} \} } \right)} \right]\right]$$

Homework Equations



alpha,beta are constants; d & e are non negative integers, X & Y are variables
dCk is binomial coefficient. S(x1,x2)=x1*(x1-1)*...(x1-x2) and S(x1,x2)=1 when x2<0. F is a even function

The Attempt at a Solution



put X+Y=V and Y=U. All I need is help in start up -JUST FIRST 2-3 steps, from there I can solve on my own. After taking X+Y=V and Y=U , how many integrals will come?
Is this the right way to start
$$\left[\int\limits_0^{Inf} {\int\limits_U^{Inf} {{e^{ - \alpha (V - U) - \beta (U)}} \cdot F(V + c) \cdot } } {(V - U)^d} \cdot {U^e} \cdot dV \cdot dU\right]$$ ?
There is something wrong in
$$\left[\int\limits_0^{Inf} {\int\limits_U^{Inf} {( - )dV \cdot dU} } \right]$$
 
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I started simplifying from
$$\left[\int\limits_0^{Inf} {\int\limits_U^{Inf} {{e^{ - \alpha (V - U) - \beta (U)}} \cdot F(V + c) \cdot } } {(V - U)^d} \cdot {U^e} \cdot dV \cdot dU\right]$$ . Finally I coudn't reach right hand side of the equation. There is something wrong in
$$\left[\int\limits_0^{Inf} {\int\limits_U^{Inf} {( - )dV \cdot dU} } \right]$$
 
hi vineel49! :smile:
vineel49 said:
Is this the right way to start
$$\left[\int\limits_0^{Inf} {\int\limits_U^{Inf} {{e^{ - \alpha (V - U) - \beta (U)}} \cdot F(V + c) \cdot } } {(V - U)^d} \cdot {U^e} \cdot dV \cdot dU\right]$$

yes :smile:

now use the binomial theorem on the (V - U)d,

then your ∫∫ is the sum of lots of separable ∫∫, of the form

∫∫ f(U)g(V) dUdV = {∫ f(U) dU} {∫ g(V) dV} :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi vineel49! :smile:


yes :smile:

now use the binomial theorem on the (V - U)d,

then your ∫∫ is the sum of lots of separable ∫∫, of the form

∫∫ f(U)g(V) dUdV = {∫ f(U) dU} {∫ g(V) dV} :wink:

I did in the way u suggested, but I was left out with a 'U' variable. but the answer doesnot contain 'U' .
 
vineel49 said:
I did in the way u suggested, but I was left out with a 'U' variable. but the answer doesnot contain 'U' .

yes, but you can integrate the {∫ f(U) dU} (which of course eliminates U), since that function f is known :wink:
 

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