How to Simplify Trigonometric Functions for Derivatives

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the derivative of the function x^2 sin x tan x. Participants explore various methods to achieve the simplification, ultimately aiming to express it as x (x sec(x) tan(x) + sin(x) * (x + 2 tan(x))). One user successfully simplifies it to x(sin x(x sec^2 x + 2 tan x) + x tan x cos x) but questions the placement of sin x in the factorization. Suggestions include expanding trigonometric functions and utilizing identities to facilitate the simplification process. The conversation emphasizes that different simplification methods can yield equivalent results, even if the order of terms differs.
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Homework Statement


Finding the derivative of x^2 sin x tan x.

I need to simplify this:

x^2 sin x sec^2 x + x^2 tan x cos x + 2x sin x tan x

to:

x (x sec(x) tan(x) + sin(x) * (x+2 tan(x)))

Homework Equations


Just what you see above.

The Attempt at a Solution


I can get it simplified to x(sin x(x sec^2 x + 2 tan x) + x tan x cos x).
 
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I'm not sure why the sinx is factored right after the x on the left :confused:
Try expanding some of the trig functions and see if you can simplify things to the final answer.
x^2\sin x \sec^2x + x^2\tan x \cos x + 2x\sin x \tan x = x\left(x\sin x\cdot\frac{1}{\cos x\cdot \cos x} + x\cdot\frac{\sin x}{\cos x}\cdot\cos x + 2\sin x \tan x\right)
 
Simplifying an expression the way that Wolfram does it is not necessarily the best way. The simplified answer you give is the same as given by Wolfram, except that the order of terms are different. If you really want to simplify the expression this way...

communitycoll said:
x2 sin x sec2 x + x2 tan x cos x + 2x sin x tan x
Using trig identities, rewrite the part in red as a product of two trig functions, neither of which are raised to an exponent. Then rewrite the part in blue as a single trig function. The rest is just rearranging terms and factoring out the greatest common factor.
 
Okay dokey then. Thanks : D
 
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