How to Simplify Trigonometric Functions for Derivatives

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the derivative of the expression x^2 sin x tan x and simplifying it to a specific form. The subject area encompasses calculus and trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various simplification techniques, including factoring and using trigonometric identities. Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind specific factorizations and the order of terms in the simplification process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to simplification. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities and the rearrangement of terms, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to achieve the desired simplification.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of differing approaches to simplification, including a reference to how Wolfram Alpha handles the expression, indicating a potential divergence in methods and interpretations among participants.

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Homework Statement


Finding the derivative of x^2 sin x tan x.

I need to simplify this:

x^2 sin x sec^2 x + x^2 tan x cos x + 2x sin x tan x

to:

x (x sec(x) tan(x) + sin(x) * (x+2 tan(x)))

Homework Equations


Just what you see above.

The Attempt at a Solution


I can get it simplified to x(sin x(x sec^2 x + 2 tan x) + x tan x cos x).
 
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I'm not sure why the sinx is factored right after the x on the left :confused:
Try expanding some of the trig functions and see if you can simplify things to the final answer.
[tex]x^2\sin x \sec^2x + x^2\tan x \cos x + 2x\sin x \tan x = x\left(x\sin x\cdot\frac{1}{\cos x\cdot \cos x} + x\cdot\frac{\sin x}{\cos x}\cdot\cos x + 2\sin x \tan x\right)[/tex]
 
Simplifying an expression the way that Wolfram does it is not necessarily the best way. The simplified answer you give is the same as given by Wolfram, except that the order of terms are different. If you really want to simplify the expression this way...

communitycoll said:
x2 sin x sec2 x + x2 tan x cos x + 2x sin x tan x
Using trig identities, rewrite the part in red as a product of two trig functions, neither of which are raised to an exponent. Then rewrite the part in blue as a single trig function. The rest is just rearranging terms and factoring out the greatest common factor.
 
Okay dokey then. Thanks : D
 

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