How to solve ∫2e^-2/tsin(3t)dt using integration by parts?

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral ∫2e^(-2/t)sin(3t)dt using integration by parts. Participants are exploring the appropriate setup for the integration by parts method and questioning the steps involved in the solution process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial setup for integration by parts, with one suggesting a different choice for u. There is mention of encountering a repetitive form when applying integration by parts, leading to confusion about the correct approach.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding the choice of u in the integration by parts method. Participants are actively questioning assumptions and exploring different interpretations of the problem setup, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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There are indications of potential typos in the original problem statement, and participants are clarifying the correct form of the exponential function involved in the integral.

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ok so the equation is in the attachment. My question is how did ∫2e...etc. in the first line get solved and get the answer in the second line. I tried integration by parts and set 2e^-2/t as the u and sin(3t)dt as dv and then did the uv-∫vdu, but then i get a ecos(3t) form for the ∫vdu and if i kept doing integration by parts i get never ending esin/cos. Anybody can help me or tell me how to solve this much appreciated.
 

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xzibition8612 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


ok so the equation is in the attachment. My question is how did ∫2e...etc. in the first line get solved and get the answer in the second line. I tried integration by parts and set 2e^-2/t as the u and sin(3t)dt as dv and then did the uv-∫vdu, but then i get a ecos(3t) form for the ∫vdu and if i kept doing integration by parts i get never ending esin/cos. Anybody can help me or tell me how to solve this much appreciated.

You cannot set u = 2e^(-2/t); instead, set u = 2 e^(-t/2).

In problems like this, the integral I can be found using integration by parts twice: you will get an equation of the form I = f1(t) + f2(t)*I, so you can solve for I. I am surprised you have not seen this before; it is one of the standard 'tricks'.
 
well i apologize if my lack of intelligence offended you, but thanks anyway.
 
xzibition8612 said:
well i apologize if my lack of intelligence offended you, but thanks anyway.
Ray Vickson said nothing about your intelligence. He only said that he was surprised that you had not seen, before, a particular, but commonly used, method for this kind of problem. That has to do with experience, not intelligence.
 
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You may have a typo in your working of the problem.

The stated problem in the attachment has [itex]\displaystyle \ \ e^{-t/2}\ .\[/itex] I your Original Post, you are letting u=2e-2/t rather than letting u=2e-t/2 .

In either case, du/dt ≠ e .

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dt} e^{-t/2}=\frac{-1}{2}e^{-t/2}\ .\[/itex]Considering the sign and the coefficient of the cosine term, I'm convinced that you should go the other way with integration by parts,
Let u=sin(3t) and dv=2e-2/tdt .​
 

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