How to Tackle Difficult Online Homework Assignments

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving work done by a force and the angle between force and displacement vectors. The initial calculations for work and angle were incorrect due to confusion between dot and cross products, leading to a miscalculation of vector magnitudes. Participants express frustration with automated homework checkers, questioning their effectiveness compared to traditional teaching methods like TAs and pop quizzes. The conversation highlights the challenges of online homework assignments, including their potential to encourage independent study despite their complexities. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of understanding fundamental concepts in physics to avoid errors in calculations.
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Homework Statement


A force F = (5 i - 1 j) N acts on a particle that undergoes a displacement r = (2 i + j) m.
(a) Find the work done by the force on the particle. (Calculate all numerical answers to three significant figures.)

(b) What is the angle between F and r?

* the problem required us to put our answer in 4 sig figs

Homework Equations


W=F*R
cross product |F||R|cos\theta

The Attempt at a Solution



part A,
since W=F*R, so I did: 5*2 + 1(-1) = 9.000 (4 sig figs)

Part B,
cross product |F||R|cos\theta
|F|=\sqrt{26}
|R| = \sqrt{3}
9=\sqrt{26}\sqrt{3}cos\theta
\theta=cos-1(9/(\sqrt{26}\sqrt{3})) = 37.87 degreesMy homework website tells me its wrong, what did I do wrong then?
 
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check your definitions again...

define [and distinguish]: cross product, dot product
define: work
 
That's what I get. But i) it's the dot product, not the cross product and ii) the length of the second vector is sqrt(5) not sqrt(3). My question is how did you get the correct angle?
 
oops. I am so sorry
I really meant the dot product...
the angle is still incorrect though
 
mkwok said:
oops. I am so sorry
I really meant the dot product...
the angle is still incorrect though

No, it's not. It's correct. Maybe you are supposed to give it in radians? Maybe sig figs? These automated homework checkers should be destroyed.
 
Dick said:
No, it's not. It's correct. Maybe you are supposed to give it in radians? Maybe sig figs? These automated homework checkers should be destroyed.

Automatic homework checker? Don't they have TAs anymore?

What the hell are they teaching in colleges these days?
 
Bill Foster said:
Automatic homework checker? Don't they have TAs anymore?

What the hell are they teaching in colleges these days?

Most undergraduate colleges don't have TAs.
Online homework assignments [however imperfect] can encourage students to work outside of class meeting times.
In addition, online homework assignments can be customized and randomized for each student.
 
robphy said:
Most undergraduate colleges don't have TAs.
Online homework assignments [however imperfect] can encourage students to work outside of class meeting times.
In addition, online homework assignments can be customized and randomized for each student.

You know how they encouraged us to work outside class meeting times when I was in college? They made us turn the homework in, gave us pop quizzes, and/or frequent exams.
 
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Bill Foster said:
You know how they encouraged us to work outside class meeting times when I was in college? They made us turn the homework in, gave us pop quizzes, and/or frequent exams.

Yep... me, too.
But then again... I really really wanted to learn it... possibly unlike the generic student.
 
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robphy said:
Most undergraduate colleges don't have TAs.
Online homework assignments [however imperfect] can encourage students to work outside of class meeting times.
In addition, online homework assignments can be customized and randomized for each student.

True. But they can be pretty difficult to reason with.
 
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