How to Transform Limits and Factor in the Jacobian for Polar Coordinates?

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The discussion revolves around transforming limits and factoring in the Jacobian when converting to polar coordinates in a double integral context. The original poster presents a specific integral involving a region defined by an inequality in Cartesian coordinates.

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  • Participants discuss the transformation from Cartesian to polar coordinates, questioning the limits and the Jacobian factor. There is a focus on correctly interpreting the region defined by the inequality and how to express it in polar form.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the need to change limits and factor in the Jacobian. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the region and the limits for the variables involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There is a mention of potential misinterpretation in the transformation process, and the original poster expresses uncertainty about the limits for θ after deriving the polar form of the inequality.

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Given x=rcosθ, y=2rcosθ

Integrate the following:
I = ∫∫D{x2+y2/4} dxdy

D = {(x,y)|x2+y2/4≤1}

My first attempt was that I substitute the polar coordinate given into the domain for x and y and so I got rcosθ+rsinθ≤1. And from here, I don't know what else to do,I am stuck.Help.
 
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Hey aruwin.

If you are going to make a transformation you need to change the limits as well as factor in the Jacobian going from (x,y) to (r,theta).

Show us your working with how you did the transformation from (x,y) to (r,theta) with x=rcos(theta), y=rsin(theta) and tell us where you get stuck if you get stuck.
 
hi aruwin! :smile:
aruwin said:
… rcosθ+rsinθ≤1 …

nooo …

D is r2cos2θ+r2sin2θ ≤ 1, isn't it? :wink:

get some sleep! :zzz:​

EDIT: ah, seems it was a mis-type …

but you can now write that as simply r2 ≤ 1 :wink:
 
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chiro said:
Hey aruwin.

If you are going to make a transformation you need to change the limits as well as factor in the Jacobian going from (x,y) to (r,theta).

Show us your working with how you did the transformation from (x,y) to (r,theta) with x=rcos(theta), y=rsin(theta) and tell us where you get stuck if you get stuck.

x is already given as rcosθ and y as 2rsinθ, so they are already in their polar coordinates,right? Now I have to change the limits too and what I did was subsititutiing those x and y values in their polar forms into x2+y2/4 ≤1
So from here, I get r2cos2θ+r2sin2θ≤1.
And I square root all of them and they became
√(r2cos2θ+r2sin2θ)≤1.

From here, clearly there's a right angle triangle with hypothenuse 1. But how do I get the limits for θ? And for r, I guess it's pretty obvious that it's limit is from 0 to 1. And that's all I was able to do,if it's correct.
 

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