How to transmit composite video

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a 315MHz transmitter module to transmit a composite video signal. Participants explore the technical limitations of such a transmission, including bandwidth requirements and regulatory considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the bandwidth of a 315MHz module is likely too narrow for video signals, as it is typically used for lower data rate digital links.
  • It is noted that a composite video signal requires approximately 7MHz bandwidth, which exceeds the capabilities of standard 315MHz modules that often have SAW filters only 600kHz wide.
  • One participant mentions the legal power limits for RF transmission and suggests experimenting with AV sender and receiver modules that do not require a license.
  • Another participant points out that while some AV modules may claim compatibility, they may not meet FCC specifications for bandwidth, raising concerns about interference and compliance.
  • There is a suggestion to consider alternative frequency bands, such as 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz, which may be more suitable for video transmission.
  • One participant expresses concern about the influx of non-compliant broadband products in the market and the implications for spectrum management.
  • A later reply confirms the recommendation to avoid 315MHz and 433MHz bands for video transmission, emphasizing the availability of better alternatives.
  • Another participant acknowledges the suggested modules as reasonable and expresses intent to purchase them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that 315MHz and 433MHz are not suitable for transmitting composite video signals due to bandwidth limitations and regulatory issues. However, there are differing views on the implications of using alternative modules and the state of spectrum management.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of the 315MHz modules in terms of bandwidth and compliance with FCC regulations, but do not resolve the broader implications of non-compliant products in the market.

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Can I use a 315MHz transmitter module to send a composite video signal to another reciever module?
 
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Bandwidth of a 315 MHz module is probably too narrow for video signals.
315 MHz is usually used for lower data rate digital links.
 
HI Tesladude

I dint know if you realize but there are dozens of AV sender and receiver modules out there
that a license isn't required for ... here's one eBay example...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/121370720997?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=107


That one is 200mW quite high power. I don't know what country you are in or what the legal power limits are before a license would be needed.

A composite video signal requires approx. 7MHz bandwidth

I would strongly suggest you experiment with these styles of modules as you really don't want to
be playing with RF electronics unless you have the skills and test equipment

cheers
Dave
 
Baluncore said:
Bandwidth of a 315 MHz module is probably too narrow for video signals.
315 MHz is usually used for lower data rate digital links.
PAL and NTSC get away with about 7MHz.
 
sophiecentaur said:
PAL and NTSC get away with about 7MHz.
Which is the problem. The SAW filters used in 315MHz modules are usually only 600 kHz wide.

http://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3587
Extract from Maxim APPLICATION NOTE 3587 said:
FCC Section 15.231(c) states that the emission bandwidth of the intentional transmission shall be no wider than 0.25% of the center frequency, where the emission bandwidth is determined by the points in the radiated spectrum that are 20dB below the modulated carrier. For 315MHz and 433.92MHz, the two most-used frequencies in the 260MHz to 470MHz unlicensed band, the maximum allowable bandwidths are 787.5kHz (±394kHz) and 1.085MHz (±542kHz).
 
sophiecentaur said:
They claim to be AV capacity.
Then they fail to meet the FCC specifications in USA where 315 MHz ±394kHz is available for compliant devices.

Digital FSK has some immunity to interference, analogue ASK does not.
On 315 MHz the AV would be sensitive to interference from many compliant devices.

Chinese manufacturers are now flooding the world market with non-compliant broadband products.
There are frequency allocations available for AV distribution in the USA that are more appropriate than 315 MHz.
I don't think PF should encourage anarchy in the spectrum.
 
The units Dave linked appear to be not 315 mhz but 5.8ghz

any relief there ?
 
yeah that was on purpose, Jim :smile:
was trying to get Tesladude as far away as possible from the 315 and 433MHz bands

mainly because of the masses of available 2.4 and 5.8 GHz AV senders and receivers available at small prices :)

Dave
 
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Sorry, I missed that link.
Tesladude said:
Can I use a 315MHz transmitter module to send a composite video signal to another reciever module?
The answer is NO. Do not use 315 MHz or 433 MHz for video.
As others have pointed out, there are better bands allocated for short range video transmission.

davenn said:
was trying to get Tesladude as far away as possible from the 315 and 433MHz bands
That is very wise.
 
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Baluncore said:
T

I don't think PF should encourage anarchy in the spectrum.

Absolutely; I couldn't agree more. Things are getting slacker and slacker as it is.
 
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i know I am a little late with my response because guess my mind had responded and not my hands, those modules suggested seem totally reasonable and I will be purchasing them soon!
 

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