How wide is the observable horizon, at sea level?

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The discussion centers on calculating the width of the observable horizon at sea level, emphasizing that the horizon is 360 degrees around an observer unless obstructed. The width can be determined by the circumference of the circle formed by the horizon, which is based on the distance to it, calculated using the formula 2πr. The conversation highlights the need to specify the observer's height to accurately determine the distance to the horizon and subsequently the width of the observable area. Additionally, a small correction is noted for the curvature of the Earth, which slightly affects the calculations. Overall, understanding the horizon's width involves both geometric principles and considerations of the observer's position.
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I'm quite aware of how to compute how FAR you are from the horizon, but my question is, how WIDE is the observable horizon at sea level (like, from left to right, how many kilometers is this):

http://www.jeicentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/far_sunset_in_te_ocean_horizon-wide.jpg

Thanks!
 
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Question makes little sense - the horizon is all around you unless blocked by a nearby rise.
So the width would be 360deg (max)

The length could be considered the circumference of the circle whose radius is the distance to the horizon.
The left-right length in the photo? It's the angle subtended by the view times the radius.
 
Doug said:
The height of eye must be specified. The distance to the visible horizon is an important calculation in dead reckoning navigation.
... this is correct, except the question asks for the width of the horizon, not the distance to it.
 
Better a good error than a bad question. Maybe we can help OPie.
 
Maybe so - see post #2. But what is your take on the question?
 
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If you know the distance to the horizon, and we're assuming you're on a spherical surface with uniform sea all around you...

The distance to the horizon would be your radius r.
Circumference C of your 360 degree view would be 2πr
Factor in your field of view... for example a FOV of 108 degrees = 108/360 = 0.3
Then multiply your C value by your FOV ratio

...and derp... somehow missed Simon's #2 post which says the same thing. Ignore me.
 
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Thanks for the replies!

Simon Bridge said:
Question makes little sense - the horizon is all around you unless blocked by a nearby rise.
So the width would be 360deg (max)

The length could be considered the circumference of the circle whose radius is the distance to the horizon.
The left-right length in the photo? It's the angle subtended by the view times the radius.

Thank you very much, Simon! I have used your post in a debate in another forum: http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/iron-giant-vs-supcom-aeon-gc.332686/page-2.

I appreciate your help.

Regards,
Lonious
 
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David Morgan said:
The distance to the horizon would be your radius r.
Circumference C of your 360 degree view would be 2πr

You will need a small additional correction because on the curved surface of the earth, the circumference of a circle is not ##2\pi{r}##, it's a bit less. The plane that the circle lies in cuts through the earth, so the observer on the surface of the Earth at the center of the circle is standing above that plane, not on it, and the radius, the distance from him to the circumference of the circle, is a bit longer than it would be on a flat surface.

This is a very small correction for a human-sized observer standing on an earth-sized object, but it's there.
 
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The usual "distance to horizon" calculation is for line of sight... so the correction is for that line and the horizon marking out a cone with apex at eye height above the ground. However, considering the distance in question is less than 3mi, that correction will be much smaller than the ones for refraction and attenuation in the air which are usually, also, neglected. I imagine the discussion referenced has debate along these lines with nobody crunching the numbers... it's a good exercize.
 
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