How would I calculate water pressure in a vertical column?

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The discussion revolves around calculating water pressure in a vertical column, specifically in the context of a PVC tube filled with water. Participants explore various equations and principles related to fluid pressure, including the effects of height, density, and gravitational force. The conversation includes both theoretical and practical considerations, with some participants seeking clarification on specific calculations related to water systems.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to calculate water pressure in a vertical column using a 17-foot PVC tube filled with water.
  • Another participant explains that water pressure at a given level balances the weight of the fluid above it, implying a relationship between pressure and gravitational force.
  • A participant suggests using the formula 'hpg' to calculate pressure, noting that pressure depends on depth rather than the width of the container.
  • Another participant confirms that pressure depends on the height of the liquid, its density, and gravitational acceleration, and provides a derivation of the pressure formula.
  • Discussion includes the weight of water and its conversion factors, with one participant noting that water weighs 62.4 pounds per cubic foot.
  • A participant inquires about the implications of using different pipe diameters for a water system, questioning how it affects pressure.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the head pressure of water is determined solely by elevation, regardless of pipe diameter.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the relationship between gallons and cubic feet, indicating confusion over water weight and volume.
  • Another participant discusses the hydrostatic pressure principle, stating that pressure is determined by the total head of water above a point of interest.
  • A later post introduces a specific scenario involving a tank with a hole, asking for help in calculating the pressure at that point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principle that water pressure is determined by the height of the water column and its density. However, there are competing views regarding the relevance of pipe diameter and the interpretation of weight versus pressure. The discussion remains unresolved on some specific calculations and the implications of different system designs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion over unit conversions and the relationship between different measurements of water volume and weight. There are also mentions of practical applications in designing water systems, which may introduce additional variables not fully explored in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students learning about fluid mechanics, individuals designing water systems, or anyone interested in the principles of hydrostatics and fluid pressure calculations.

  • #31
I used to pay 1/3 (one and threepence) for some truly disgusting Mild in Truro. But then my Dad was only earning about £1500 a year at the time and the coppers wouldn't bash you over the head if you got out of hand. Not too bad, in all. But no internet forums either!
Yer Uncle and Grandad would give you half a crown and it would totally make your day!
Yes - £3 plus, in many places but better than Watneys Red Barrel at 2/6 a pint.
 
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  • #32
sophiecentaur said:
2/6 a pint.
I guess that was the times I met esterling system - in very last its years (I visited England in 1970, I was 15 then, but those times nobody asked for ID if teenager ordered a beer in a pub) - half crown a pint...
I really appreciate monetary systems which not only are not decimal, but have special coin for 2/6...
 
  • #33
Way off topic and now we are two old farts reminiscing. But the half crown was, I agree, the pinnacle of the LSD system.
 
  • #34
Hi,

Yes Toymkr is right.
'arildno' is cryptic and confusing in his/her answer deliberately pedantic and arrogant.

The water pressure is caused by water molecules pushing down due to gravity.
It doesn't matter about the water molecules next to me. Only the ones above me.

So It doesn't matter how wide the tank is.

Only the height of the water causes the pressure.

The pressure can be measured in weight per square inch (eg PSI)
Then the pressure is the weight of a square inch column of the water.
Square Inch x Height = pounds.

(But as this is no longer the 1800's we use millimetres and kilograms :))
 
  • #35
welcome to PF, penguingenius

you should google "necropost"

also, arildno is not such a bad sort.
 
  • #36
As a matter of style and politeness and adherence to the Physics Forums global guidelines, one should avoid criticising posters and only criticize postings. Verbiage such as "deliberately pedantic and arrogant" may be straying over that line.
 
  • #37
If you want to hit someone hard "you clearly don't understand' is polite but to the point. I think the mods do quite well with the more objectionable visitors, in fact. They don't seem to hang around long - or oerhaps they come back in another, more polite guise.
 

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