Humans look so different from their closest relatives

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The discussion centers around the morphological differences between modern humans and their closest relatives, particularly focusing on the anatomical features of skulls among various hominid species. Participants explore the implications of these differences in the context of evolutionary relationships.

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  • One participant questions how Heidelbergensis can be considered an ancestor to both modern humans and Neanderthals, noting the significant differences in skull morphology, such as the absence of a brow ridge and the presence of a chin in modern humans.
  • Another participant uses a personal analogy about familial resemblance to highlight the complexity of biological relationships, suggesting that lack of similarity does not negate relatedness.
  • A different participant emphasizes that while all humans belong to the same species, modern human skulls are distinct from those of other hominids, which typically share features like brow ridges and elongated cranium shapes.
  • One participant asserts that the existence of striking differences among species indicates they are not the same species, suggesting that cladistics could provide insight into how hominid skulls are classified.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of morphological differences among hominids. There is no consensus on why modern humans appear so distinct from their closest relatives, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the evolutionary significance of these differences.

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Participants reference specific anatomical features and classifications without fully addressing the underlying assumptions or definitions that may influence their arguments. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of evolutionary relationships among hominids.

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3) How is Heidelbergensis the ancestor of both

modern humans and neanderthals? As mentioned in the first question,

neanderthals look quite similar to heidelbergensis, so I understand

the connection. However, compared to Heidelbergensis, modern human

skulls look quite alien. That is to say, no brow ridge, the presence

of a chin and perhaps most striking is the round shape of the cranium

(whereas all other hominids had elongated oval shaped craniums).
 
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I don't look much like my dad, does that mean we're not related?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
I don't look much like my dad, does that mean we're not related?
Parents and children are generally within the same species (I use generally because certain animals have interbred and created things like wolphins). For humans, they are all within the same species. My question is that skulls that are labeled as modern "belonging to homo sapiens sapiens" are unusual compared to those of their closest relatives outside of their species (aka the hominids). All of the hominids, be it neanderthal, homo erectus, homo heidelbergensis, austropithecus etc all had brow ridges and lacked chins. All other species of homo, in addition, had craniums (part protecting brain) shaped quite differently from that of humans. It is more of an enlongated oval shape. As stated in this article, we are the only hominids with chins http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-do-humans-have-chins-15140492/?no-ist Why is it that modern humans look so different from other hominids, while the diverse species of hominids look quite similar to each other?
 
If there were no striking differences, then they would be the same species rather than close relatives.
If you want to know how homonid skulls get characterized, look into cladistics. I gave you a link.
 

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