Huygen's Principle: Understanding Light Diffraction and Refraction in Materials

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The discussion centers on the nature of light diffraction and refraction, questioning whether atoms in a material emit waves during these processes. It clarifies that while atoms can emit waves through spontaneous or stimulated emission, it is misleading to say they emit waves when light passes through a transparent medium. Huygen's principle is mentioned as a classical model that does not adequately explain the behavior of light at the atomic level in materials. The conversation also touches on the limitations of merging classical optics with quantum mechanics in understanding optical phenomena. Overall, the complexities of light behavior in different mediums highlight the need for a deeper understanding of both classical and quantum theories.
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I want to know, when there is diffraction or refraction of light, are the atoms inside of the material releasing also waves in whole directions, like on this pictures:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5714/80472685hw1.jpg"
 
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It is not atoms that release the wavelets, it's the wavefront itself.

Claude.
 
Claude Bile said:
It is not atoms that release the wavelets, it's the wavefront itself.

Claude.

Do the lattice atoms from inside of the material release waves?
 
Anybody know?
 
Physicsissuef said:
Do the lattice atoms from inside of the material release waves?
Assuming that, by "release" you mean "emit"...

Any atom can emit waves through spontaneous or stimulated emission.

If, however a wave passes through a transparent medium, then it is incorrect (or, at best, misleading) to say that the atoms within the medium have "emitted" a wave.

Claude.
 
Claude Bile said:
Assuming that, by "release" you mean "emit"...

Any atom can emit waves through spontaneous or stimulated emission.

If, however a wave passes through a transparent medium, then it is incorrect (or, at best, misleading) to say that the atoms within the medium have "emitted" a wave.

Claude.

But Huygen's principle can't explain what happens in the inner structure of the material, when there is transparent medium.
Is in mirrors, have total reflection, aren't there any refraction?
 
With a mirror there is no refraction. It is completely refecting what hit it. I'm sure some energy gets absorbed in the process.
 
Physicsissuef said:
But Huygen's principle can't explain what happens in the inner structure of the material, when there is transparent medium.
Is in mirrors, have total reflection, aren't there any refraction?

I am having a bit of a problem understanding why you want to "merge" Huygen's principle with actual QM description of optical transport in matter (which you can learn from solid state/condensed matter physics, or in our FAQ). Huygen's principle, as we know it now, is more of a "phenomenological model" of classical optics. There are many aspects of such models that will simply not work when you try to incorporate atoms and matter into such things.

Zz.
 
Yes, I also thought that it is just one model for describing what happens when there is reflection or refraction. Anyway, I have read so many articles, is it light EM wave, particle or mixture of both?
 
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