Hydraulic jack - Pascal's principle

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The discussion revolves around the application of Pascal's principle in hydraulic systems, specifically calculating forces and distances using given equations. The user calculates the areas of two pistons and determines that a force of 500N is insufficient to lift a 500kg mass, requiring 543N instead. There is confusion regarding the second part of the problem, particularly about the expected distance moved when a force is applied to the smaller piston. Clarification is sought on whether the problem assumes sufficient force is applied and how to relate the distances moved on both sides of the hydraulic system. The area ratio is confirmed to be 9:1, which is crucial for understanding the mechanics involved.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


P1=P2

P=F/A

F=PA

F1/A1=F2/A2

F2 = F1(A2/A1)

F2 = W(A2/A1)

W=mg

W=F*d

The Attempt at a Solution



A1= pi/4 * d2 = pi/4 * (0.15)2 = 0.0177m2

A2 = pi/4 * d2 = pi/4 * (0.05)2 = 0.00196m2

P1=P2

P=F/A

F=PA

F1/A1=F2/A2

F2 = F1(A2/A1)

F2 = W(A2/A1)

W=mg

= 500 * 9.81

= 4905N

F2 = W(A2/A1)

= 4905 (0.00196/0.0177)

= 543N

1.1) Therefore the force of 500N cannot lift the 500kg mass because 543N is required to do so.

1.2) W=F*d

= 543 x 0.01

= 5.43J

W= F*d

5.43 = 4905 x d

d = 5.43/4905

d = 0.001m

= 1mm is the distance depressed.
 

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I am confused. What is your question for us?

Your part 1 is correct. I am not sure what they want in 2nd part. Are they assuming that now you do have sufficient force and you push down a distance of 10 cm?
 
scottdave said:
I am confused. What is your question for us?

Your part 1 is correct. I am not sure what they want in 2nd part. Are they assuming that now you do have sufficient force and you push down a distance of 10 cm?

I only want to confirm that my answers are correct.

In 1.2 I believe they want to know the distance moved on the side of the mass when 10mm pushed down on the small piston side
 
What is the ratio of the two areas?
 
3:1
 
DevonZA said:
3:1
That is the ratio of diameters. What about the areas?
 
A1= pi/4 * d2 = pi/4 * (0.15)2 = 0.0177m2

A2 = pi/4 * d2 = pi/4 * (0.05)2 = 0.00196m2

Ratio = 0.0177/0.00196
= 9

Therefore ratio is 9:1
 
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