Hydrogen atom probability of electron inside nucleus

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The discussion centers on calculating the probability of finding an electron inside the nucleus of a hydrogen atom using its wavefunction, \(\psi(r) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi}} \left(\frac{1}{a_{0}}\right)^{\frac{3}{2}} e^{-r/a_{0}}\), where \(a_{0} = 0.53Å\). The probability is computed using the integral \(P(r) = \int_{0}^{10^{-15m}}\psi^{*}(r)\psi(r) dr\). The second integral, \(P_{nl}(r) = \int_{r}^{r+dr}R_{nl}^{*}(r) R_{nl}(r) 4\pi r^{2} dr\), incorporates the factor \(4\pi r^{2}\), representing the surface area of a sphere, which is crucial for calculating the probability density in spherical coordinates. The approximation \(e^{-r/a_{0}} \approx 1\) is suggested for simplifying calculations when \(r << a_{0}\).

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Homework Statement



The ground state of the hydrogen atom has the wavefunction: \psi (r) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi}} (\frac{1}{a_{0}})^{\frac{3}{2}} e^{-r/a_{0}}, where a_{0} = 0.53Å

a) Calculate the probability that an electron will be found inside the nucleus of the hydrogen atom, which is assumed to be 10^{-15} m in radius.

Homework Equations



P(r) = \int_{0}^{10^{-15m}}\psi^{*}(r)\psi(r) dr

P_{nl}(r) = \int_{r}^{r+dr}R_{nl}^{*}(r) R_{nl}(r) 4\pi r^{2} dr

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, so I tried solving this problem using the first integral above and got something ridiculous so had a bit of a read and remembered something about a volume element in the integral for the probability density. I suppose I was only considering a plane slice or something.

Anyway, I'm having trouble understanding where the second integral comes from (I got it out of a book), in particular the factor of 4\pi r^{2} in the integral. So looking at it I'm guessing the R's refer to the radial part of the wavefunction in spherical coordinates which is the same as the first integral since it's \psi (r). Now the book says that the factor of 4\pi r^{2} is present because the volume enclosed between spheres of radius r and r + dr is given by that factor, however I can't figure it out! I've tried calculating the volume of two spheres of radius r and r + dr respectively and it feels like I'm sort of close but I can't get to it!

Can anyone explain to me what it's doing there, the books explanation makes intuitive sense when you picture what you're integrating over but I don't understand how that is equivalent to this factor in the integral!

Thank you!
 
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You don't need the second integral.
4 pi r^2 is the surface area of a sphere, and the second integral calculates the probability to find the electron in a thin (dr) spherical shell.

If you want to simplify the problem, you can assume that the magnitude of the wave function is constant within the nucleus.
The result will be extremely small.
 
mfb said:
You don't need the second integral.
4 pi r^2 is the surface area of a sphere, and the second integral calculates the probability to find the electron in a thin (dr) spherical shell.

If you want to simplify the problem, you can assume that the magnitude of the wave function is constant within the nucleus.
The result will be extremely small.

I think for the problem I'm supposed to use the approximation that e^{-r/a_{0}} \approx 1 since r &lt;&lt; a_{0}, this approach has come up many times in the past for virtually the same question in my Atomic & Nuclear Physics course and Quantum Mechanics course.

However, my question wasn't really about solving this problem, and I understand that 4 \pi r^{2} is the surface area of a sphere and we're calculating the probability to find the electron in a thin (dr) spherical shell, however, as I said, intuitively this makes sense but I don't understand the maths of it.
 

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