I cannot normalise this: F= Cexp(-r/a)

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The discussion revolves around the normalization of the function F = Cexp(-r/a), with participants exploring the mathematical steps involved in integrating this expression, particularly in the context of three-dimensional space. The conversation includes aspects of calculus and potential connections to quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant attempts to normalize the function by squaring the integrand and integrating from 0 to infinity, leading to confusion over the expected result compared to a textbook answer.
  • Another participant suggests that the normalization involves a 3D integral in spherical coordinates and emphasizes the need for clarity in the OP's presentation of the problem.
  • Several participants express the importance of using LaTeX for clarity and suggest that the OP should provide more explicit details about their calculations.
  • There is a discussion about the physical dimensions of the constant C, with one participant noting that it suggests a three-dimensional space.
  • One participant critiques the OP for not clarifying their question and for leaving others to guess the intent behind their problem.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the OP's issue may stem from a misunderstanding of calculus rather than quantum mechanics, highlighting the need for proper integration techniques in three dimensions.

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Participants express differing views on the clarity of the OP's question and the appropriateness of their approach. There is no consensus on the correct method for normalization, and multiple perspectives on the integration process are presented.

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Limitations include the OP's lack of clarity in their question and the potential misunderstanding of the integration process in three-dimensional space. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with calculus and its application to the problem at hand.

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I cannot normalise this, in fact, I cannot normalise any integral in QM at all unless it is a 1D infinite square well (and struggle even then)
I need to normalise F= Cexp(-r/a)
To do this, I squared the integrand to get C^2exp(-2r/a).
Then I integrated with infinite limits (from 0 to infinity) and equated to 1. The answer to the integral (confirmed by symbolab) is -a/2exp(-2r/a). When I set the limits I get sqrt(2/a). The book says the answer should be (pi*a^3)^1/2. I do not understand what I am doing wrong- I checked everything.
 
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At this level, it's going to be difficult for you without Latex. Also, you need to show us what you are doing. I guess you are doing a 3D integral in spherical coordinates.
 
In addition, when you post what you do in LaTeX, please be clear what is equal to what. "I get..." can mean several different things. Be explicit.
 
Do you have a specific textbook exercise on mind here? If so you will get better and more helpful answers by posting in the homework forums and using the homework template that appears when you start a thread there.
 
Isn’t it 3D with
r^2 =x^2+y^2+z^2?
 
Use ##dv=4 \pi r^2 \, dr ##. If your calculus is good enough that you can do inegration by parts a couple times, it should get you there. I get the answer for ## C ## is the inverse of the book's answer that you gave.
 
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Isn’t it
Quite possibly. But isn't it the OP's responsibility to post a clear question and not ours to figure out what they must have meant? And isn't it the OP's responsibility to look in on his thread and answer clarifying questions rather than to leave us to guess?
 
Constat C has physical dimension of L^(-d/2) where d is space dimension. The "right" answer suggests d=3. But Sherlock Holmes seems not be welcomed here.
 
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Sherlock Holmes should not be required. A question that requires detective work is not a good question, and the OP should clarify. Also, our detective work is not always perfect and we run the substantial risk of being told "No, that's not what I meant at all". The forum has plenty of examples.
 
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jqmhelios said:
I cannot normalise any integral in QM at all unless it is a 1D infinite square well (and struggle even then)
Your problem is not QM. Your problem is calculus, which you should learn before trying to learn QM.

As others told you, in this case you need to know that ##r## is a radial coordinate in 3-dimensional space, so you should not integrate just over ##dr##. You should integrate over ##4\pi r^2 dr##. If you have no idea why, you should spend some time with learning calculus first.
 
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The OP has not been back since @PeroK’s comment (#2). I am guessing that was sufficient.
 

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