I have got a problem here:I was given this:A 125W heater and

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To determine when heating started for the 125W heater in 0.6kg of oil, an initial temperature is necessary, as the provided data lacks this crucial detail. The discussion suggests that heating likely began at t=0, making the question about the start time somewhat ambiguous without an initial temperature. An energy balance equation can be used to model the temperature change over time, assuming heating starts at t=0. By plotting the temperature data against time, a linear relationship can reveal the initial temperature. The conversation highlights the importance of defining the reference point for time and temperature in such calculations.
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I have got a problem here:

I was given this:


A 125W heater and a thermometer are immersed in 0.6kg of oil in a vessel of negligible heat capacity. The following results were obtained.

Temperature (K) 294 302 313 324 334
Time (minutes) 2 4 6 8 10

How would you find the time at which heating started?

would it be the x value when y = 0, but x (time) would be negative.

Can someone help? Thank you.

Gary
 
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What do you mean by "started heating"? You would need to know an inital temperature. Without that the question is pretty meaningless.
 
the information I posted above is all the information I have on the question...
 
The only interpetation of that problem that makes any sense is that the heaters were turned on at t=0. Thus heating started at t=0
 
I don't believe there is enough info given.
Most likely it is a typo and the requirement is actually the starting temperature.
In this case a way to do it would be:

An energy balance on the oil,

m.Cp.[T - T0] = q.t

(assuming heating starts at t=0)

So,

T(t) = (q/m/Cp)t + T0

Take the data & plot. Should be straight line of intercept T0.

p.s. There's nothing wrong with time being negative, it's all relative to where zero is defined.
However a temperature of zero kelvin is highly unlikely, i.e. your oil would probably be a frozen rock.
 
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