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The discussion revolves around determining the temperature required to increase the root mean square (rms) speed of gas molecules by 12 percent, starting from an initial temperature of 27 degrees Celsius. The relevant equation for rms speed is provided, and participants explore the relationship between temperature and molecular speed.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the rms speed equation to find the new temperature, raising questions about the correctness of their calculations and assumptions regarding temperature units.

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Participants are engaged in verifying calculations and clarifying temperature units. Some guidance is offered regarding the need to express temperatures in Kelvin rather than degrees Celsius, and there is a mix of confirmations and inquiries about the correctness of the approach taken.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the temperature units, as the original poster initially uses degrees Celsius but later acknowledges the need to convert to Kelvin for calculations.

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Homework Statement


A certain gas is at a temperature of 27 degrees celsius. What would the temperature of the gas have to be to increase the rms speed of the molecules in the gas by 12 percent?


Homework Equations


V rms = √((3RT)/(M))


The Attempt at a Solution



We know R and T
R= 8.31 J/mol *k
New T= ?
M is unknown

T is what we must find.


V rms(.12) + 1 = ( Vrms1.12)

I don't know if I'm right but here's what I did.

3RT(2) = (1.12 Vrms)^ 2) * M

3RT(1) = (Vrms)^2) * M


We solve for T(2) or Temperature 2 or Temperature Final.

We divide (T2) over (T1)

3R cancels and M cancels


so we have T(2) / T(1) = 1.2544 Vrms ^2 / Vrms ^2


Vrms ^ 2 cancels

we are left with

T(2) = 1.2544 * T1

T(2) = 1.2544 * 27 degrees celsius = 33.8688

Is this correct.

Let's check if Vrms increases

T must increase and T did increase so I'm assuming that I did it right.
 
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afcwestwarrior said:
T(2) = 1.2544 * T1

T(2) = 1.2544 * 27 degrees celsius = 33.8688
Note that T1 and T2 are in Kevin, not degrees celsius. So T1=273+27=300K.
 
Woops. So it's 1.2544 (300K) = 376.32
 
IS it right
 
Yes, it's correct.

They might want the answer given in degrees C, since those were the temperature units given in the problem statement.
 
Man I feel good.
 

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