I need some serious help: trig expressions, OY

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around simplifying a trigonometric expression: (sec² x csc x) / (sec² x + csc² x). Participants explore various approaches to simplify the expression and clarify the problem's requirements.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about simplifying the expression and seeks help, indicating a lack of confidence in their approach.
  • Another participant questions whether the expression is part of a known identity and suggests that there are many equivalent forms possible.
  • A later reply clarifies that the goal is to simplify the expression to its most complete form.
  • Participants discuss rewriting the expression in terms of sine and cosine as a potential strategy for simplification.
  • One participant provides a hint regarding the simplification of the denominator using the relationship between sums of reciprocals.
  • Another participant claims to have found the answer, stating it is sin x, but does not provide detailed reasoning for this conclusion.
  • There is a suggestion that the problem may be better suited for the precalculus section of the forum for quicker assistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the simplification process, and there are varying levels of confidence in the approaches discussed. The final claim of the answer being sin x is presented without further verification or agreement from others.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the identities and simplification techniques are not explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve the correctness of the final answer provided.

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Here is my problem:
(sec 2 x csc x) / (sec 2 x + csc 2 x)
-first i replaced the denominator with its identities.. and i got : 2+tan^2 x +cos^2 x
but the numerator.. can you just .. i really think I'm doing this
wrong.. ugh, and i cannot stand it!
Honestly, i would be truly gratful for any help ^^
:shy:
 
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Um, is there an actual identity this expression is a part of? That's not really a problem, it's just an expression. Are you being asked to transform it into a nicer form? There are many, many possibilities for different expressions that are equivalent to the one you gave.
 
^^ oh, I'm actually suposed to simplify the expression in the most complete form
 
Ok and to double check your original expression is [sec(2x)csc(x)] / [sec(2x) + csc(2x)] right?
 
oh,.. no, i forgot the carrots sorry, the sec,sec, and csc are all squared
(sec^2 x csc x) / (sec^2 x + csc^2 x)
 
Ok, first, try writing everything in terms of sin and cos (often a good technique). The key lies in simplifying the denominator since you can't do much with the numerator after writing it in terms of sin and cos.

Here's a hint for the denominator. Since we're dealing with sums of reciprocals, use the fact that 1/a + 1/b = (a+b)/ab.
 
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^^ WOOT! Hahahhaha! the answer is sin x!
thank you so much!
 
No problem! Also, this is more trig and less calculus and you're likely to get more help in the precalculus section of the homework area anyways. That way you'll get your problem answered faster without confusing people :).
 

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