I want to lern EE, but can not major in it.

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and strategies for an applied math major interested in learning electrical engineering (EE) and potentially pursuing a career in that field. Participants explore the most important EE courses to take as electives, the feasibility of obtaining internships with a background in applied math, and the value of mastering foundational concepts in EE.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that mastering basic linear circuit analysis is essential for anyone entering the EE field.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding linear systems and signal processing, along with practical experience in fields like electromagnetics.
  • Some participants propose that obtaining a minor in EE would be beneficial, although one notes that their school does not offer this option.
  • There is a viewpoint that many engineering students do not retain significant knowledge from their courses, which may affect their readiness for the industry.
  • A participant shares their personal experience of securing an internship with minimal technical coursework, indicating that internships often serve as an introduction to the field.
  • Another participant encourages applying to multiple internships to build connections in the industry, suggesting that practical experience can supplement academic knowledge.

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Participants express varying opinions on the necessity of formal EE coursework versus self-study and practical experience. There is no consensus on the best path forward, as some advocate for a minor or major in EE while others suggest focusing on foundational concepts and gaining experience through internships.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the importance of specific EE courses and the varying definitions of what constitutes adequate preparation for a career in EE. Additionally, the discussion reflects differing perspectives on the effectiveness of traditional engineering education.

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Students majoring in applied mathematics or related fields considering a transition into electrical engineering, as well as those interested in internship opportunities in engineering without a formal EE background.

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I am majoring in applied math, but i would like to learn some EE, and maybe get a job as an engineer if i can. My question is, what are the most important EE classes, the ones that i should take as electives in order to be a competent engineer, or atleast the ones that i need to know in order to do EE in graduate school. I just started my 3rd year of undergrad, so I'm not sure which dicipline a would rather study in grad school if i decide to go.

thanks for the help
 
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fivestar said:
I am majoring in applied math, but i would like to learn some EE, and maybe get a job as an engineer if i can. My question is, what are the most important EE classes, the ones that i should take as electives in order to be a competent engineer, or atleast the ones that i need to know in order to do EE in graduate school. I just started my 3rd year of undergrad, so I'm not sure which dicipline a would rather study in grad school if i decide to go.

thanks for the help

Well.. if you are willing to take core classes of EE, I strongly suggest you at least get a minor in it. But as for the most important EE courses, I can think of circuit related courses, signals, electromagnetics.

But again, if you want to take EE courses, it's better if you just get a minor in it. (Or double major)
 
My recommendation is that first and foremost you MUST master basic linear circuit analysis. Beyond that, IMO if you have a good understanding of linear systems and signal processing and know how to work with some sort of field (EM, sound, fluids, etc) you probably can fill in the blanks as needed when you go into something more specialized on the job or in grad school. If you are looking at a particular field you should start studying that in more detail as well.

FYI, I've been in a somewhat similar position- I did physics and math as an undergrad but spent about a year total on two separate internships working as an engineer. I've known many engineers and engineering students and I think you'd be surprised how little the average engineering student takes out of their degree. Regarding engineering students, I'd guess that about 80-90% honestly don't care about what they are doing and when they take a class, they are only trying to get a good grade with little work, as opposed to learning the material. Of course this means they have gained little usable knowledge or skill when they graduate. In the industry I'd put it closer to 50% because there is a higher level of accountability, but even there, most people don't seem to apply what they learned in class nearly as much as what they learn on the job. Based on these observations I think the way to go is to really understand the basics (listed above) and then work on your specific interest. I don't think encountering in class the more advanced elements of a particular field you aren't interested in is important- most people don't take anything out of that anyways.

On the other hand, if you want to be very good and or versatile, you might want to add on a EE major and stick around an extra year, or, better yet, you should study and master the material covered in those courses outside of the courses.
 
thanks for the help.

My school doesn't offer a minor in EE. I will try to do as you suggested. Do you think i can get an internship in EE, with only a bachlors in applied math? I would try to continue my education as i work, if i could land a job or internship.
 
When I first got an internship, it was after my second year in school and the only technical classes I had up to that point were intro mechanics, intro e&m, calc 1-3, intro linear algebra and intro ODEs. Anything else I needed I learned there. Many internships are designed to be an introduction to a field. I would just apply to many places and try to develop connections with people in the industry.
 

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