Ideal gas law: can you use it to find P during exsolution?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of using the difference between the small amount a bottle of soda swells when shaken and the potential amount the gas would swell if not contained to determine the pressure in the bottle. The formula mRT/V is mentioned, with m representing the density of the gas and V1 representing the volume the exsolved gas would fill if not contained. The speaker acknowledges that this may not be applicable in their specific problem, as the fluid they are dealing with has more freedom to expand above its saturation pressure.
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If you shake up a bottle of soda and it gets slightly larger because the disturbed gas in solution is trying to expand but cannot, could you use the difference in (THE SMALL AMOUNT THE BOTTLE ACTUALLY SWELLED) and the (POTENTIAL AMOUNT THE GAS WOULD SWELL IF NOT CONTAINED) to determine the pressure in the bottle?

e.g. PRESSURE = mRT/V ... where V is the tiny amount the bottle swelled and m = density_gas*V1 where V1 is the volume this exsolved amount gas would fill if not contained?

(and let's just pretend you knew how much gas exsolved when you shook it ... because we pretend in physics).

Or am I just barking up the wrong tree entirely? :)
 
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By the way, I know the pressure would keep a certain amount of gas in solution regardless of what it "wanted" to do, but in my real problem (which seemed to annoying long and complicated to post here) the fluid will be ascending to a point above it's saturation pressure and have more freedom (although not total) to expand than soda in a bottle.
 

FAQ: Ideal gas law: can you use it to find P during exsolution?

1. Can the Ideal Gas Law be used to find pressure during exsolution?

Yes, the Ideal Gas Law (PV = nRT) can be used to find pressure during exsolution as long as the gas is in the ideal gas state.

2. What is exsolution?

Exsolution is the process in which a gas dissolved in a liquid or solid is released into a separate phase due to changes in temperature or pressure.

3. What are the conditions for the Ideal Gas Law to be applicable?

The Ideal Gas Law is applicable when the gas is at low pressure, high temperature, and the molecules of the gas do not have significant interactions with each other.

4. How does the Ideal Gas Law relate to exsolution?

The Ideal Gas Law can be used to calculate the pressure of a gas during exsolution, as long as the gas is in the ideal gas state and the temperature and number of moles of the gas are known.

5. What are the units for the variables in the Ideal Gas Law?

The units for the variables in the Ideal Gas Law are: pressure (P) in Pascals (Pa), volume (V) in cubic meters (m^3), number of moles (n) in moles (mol), temperature (T) in Kelvin (K), and the gas constant (R) in Joules per mole Kelvin (J/mol*K).

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