Identical particles and degenrate energy levels

[Sunshine]

Homework Statement

Five electrons (with mass m) whose interaction can be neglected, are in the same 3-dim harmonic oscillatorpotential
$$V(x,y,z) = \frac k2 (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)$$

What is the ground state energy?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

I have the energy for the potential. It is:
$$E_{n_x,n_y,n_z} = (n_x+n_y+n_z + \frac 32)\frac{\hbar\omega}2$$

My question is about the degeneracy.Since it's electrons, at most 2 of them can be in the same state, but can more than 2 electrons have the same energy?

Relating to this question: Should the ground state energy for this system be

$$E=2E_{111}+2E_{211}+E_{121}$$

or are the two states (211) and (121) not allowed to have more than 2 electrons totally, ie

$$E=2E_{111}+2E_{211}+E_{221}$$

 

[nrqed]

Homework Statement

Five electrons (with mass m) whose interaction can be neglected, are in the same 3-dim harmonic oscillatorpotential
$$V(x,y,z) = \frac k2 (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)$$

What is the ground state energy?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

I have the energy for the potential. It is:
$$E_{n_x,n_y,n_z} = (n_x+n_y+n_z + \frac 32)\frac{\hbar\omega}2$$

My question is about the degeneracy.Since it's electrons, at most 2 of them can be in the same state, but can more than 2 electrons have the same energy?

of course. As long as they don't all have the same quantum numbers.

Relating to this question: Should the ground state energy for this system be

$$E=2E_{111}+2E_{211}+E_{121}$$

or are the two states (211) and (121) not allowed to have more than 2 electrons totally, ie

$$E=2E_{111}+2E_{211}+E_{221}$$

Wait. Why aren't you starting with the n=0 states??

 

[Avodyne]

Well, first of all, the n's can be zero ...

Yes, more than two electrons can have the same energy if they are in a different state.
The states are labeled by the values of nx, ny, and nz, so the states (211) and (121) are each allowed to have two electrons, for a total maximum of four.

 

[Sunshine]

Ok, didn't know that n could be 0. So the energy should be

$$2E_{000}+2E_{100}+E_{010}$$?