If a light goes from space to a glass

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of light as it transitions from space into a glass medium, specifically focusing on changes in wavelength, frequency, and color. Participants explore concepts related to refraction, the relationship between wavelength and frequency, and the perception of color in relation to these changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the wavelength of light changes when it enters a different medium, while others argue that frequency remains constant and does not affect color.
  • One participant claims that light does not change wavelength when moving between media, emphasizing that it changes path instead.
  • Another participant states that wavelength, frequency, and color are interconnected, suggesting that a change in one implies changes in the others.
  • There is a contention regarding the definition of color, with some stating it is determined by wavelength, while others clarify that color perception occurs in the retina and is influenced by the index of refraction.
  • Participants discuss the Doppler effect as an example where both frequency and wavelength change, leading to a change in color.
  • One participant acknowledges a correction regarding the understanding of wavelength and frequency changes.
  • Another participant notes that light cannot be seen while it is in glass, as visibility requires light to enter the eye.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether wavelength changes when light enters a new medium, leading to an unresolved debate on the relationship between wavelength, frequency, and color perception.

Contextual Notes

Some statements depend on specific definitions of color and the conditions under which light is observed, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes references to external sources for further clarification.

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If a light goes from space to a glass his wavelength becomes smaller.So if we put a red color to a glass it can become orange?
 
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No. The frequency remains the same, as does the energy of the wave. It does not change color.
 
Light does not change wavelength as it moves from one medium to another. It changes path. If you light a torch, or a laser pointer from a side of an aquarium, the light beam retains the same colour, but follow a line at an angle to the original path. It's called refraction.
You can find more information on the wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction)
 
It does change wavelength, but not frequency or color.
 
dauto said:
It does change wavelength, but not frequency or color.
Wavelength, frequency, and colour are all pretty much the same thing, so one cannot change without the others.
Frequency is the inverse of wavelength(f=1/λ), and colur is the perception of specific wavelengths.
 
Bandersnatch said:
Light does not change wavelength as it moves from one medium to another.
This is not correct, it does change wavelength.
 
Bandersnatch said:
Wavelength, frequency, and colour are all pretty much the same thing, so one cannot change without the others.
Frequency is the inverse of wavelength(f=1/λ), and colur is the perception of specific wavelengths.

No, wavelength can change while the frequency remains the same: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency#Frequency_of_waves

When waves from a monochrome source travel from one medium to another, their frequency remains the same—only their wavelength and speed change.
 
I stand corrected on both accounts.
 
I knew that only speed and wavelength change and that frequency remains the same.but I knew that color is about wavelength so something with 700nm is red.then if wavelength change ,color?
 
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The only place you see color is inside your retina and it is only the wavelength there that matters. The wavelength there is determined by the frequency of the light and the index of refraction of the vitreous humor.
 
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Drakkith said:
When waves from a monochrome source travel from one medium to another, their frequency remains the same—only their wavelength and speed change.


So, if colour is the function of the wavelength, why don't color change when wavelength changes?
 
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curious bishal said:
So, if colour is the function of the wavelength, why don't color change when wavelength changes?

Because that isn't strictly correct. It would be more accurate to say that color changes when the frequency changes, as the frequency doesn't change between emission and absorption, no matter what material the light enters.

But, there are cases where the frequency does change, and so does the color. For example, take the doppler shift of light when traveling towards or away from a light source. There is both a frequency AND a wavelength change, which will change its color as well.
 
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The frequency of light does not change in different mediums. The wavelength changes because the speed of light though the media changes.

But, to take the point 1 furthur, you cannot see the light in glass. You can only see light that enters your eye, in which case it is no longer in glass.
 
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