If b a ,Ex and Hy are zero .why ?

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The discussion centers around the behavior of electromagnetic field components in a rectangular waveguide when the parameter b is much greater than a (b >> a). Participants explore why the electric field component Ex and the magnetic field component Hy are zero under these conditions, referencing concepts from electromagnetic theory.

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  • One participant notes that in the Schaum series book, it is stated that if b >> a, then Ex and Hy are zero, and only Ey, Hx, and Hz components are present.
  • Another participant suggests that the condition b >> a might relate to solutions found in a parallel plate waveguide, questioning the interpretation of the parameters.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that in the Fourier solution to the 2D wave equation with rectangular waveguide boundary conditions, Ex and Hy are proportional to sin(1/b), implying that a large b would lead to these components approaching zero.
  • One participant mentions that depending on the boundary conditions used in rectangular waveguide problems, certain tangential components may be zero, specifically referencing perfect magnetic conductor (pmc) and perfect electric conductor (pec) conditions.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the conditions under which Ex and Hy are zero, with no consensus reached on the underlying reasons or the implications of the boundary conditions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the relationship between b and a in the context of waveguide behavior.

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Some assumptions about boundary conditions and their effects on field components are not fully explored, and there is uncertainty regarding the specific context of the problem as presented in the referenced book.

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if b >> a ,Ex and Hy are zero .why ?

hello friends...in schaum series book on Electromagnetic field theory , its shown that if b>> a then Ex and Hy are zero , and only components present will be Ey , Hx, Hz...
can you please tell me the reson for that...what happened when we made b >> a...
( i know that if a > b the all five components mentioned above r present...)

i have uploaded image of rectangular waveguide...
 

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It is just the way it is.
 


Do you really mean b >> a and not like in your picture a>b like for a usual rectangular waveguide? If you really mean b>>a, you might find the solutions with a parallel plate waveguide. Furthermore since I am curious, could you supply a amazon.com link to the book you use?
 
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I believe that in the Fourier solution to the 2D wave equation with the rectangular waveguide boundary conditions, Ex and Hy are proportional to sin(1/b), and if b is very large then this would make the components go to zero. I'm not sure if that's what the problem is stating though.
 
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Hmm, I thought in rectangular waveguide problems, depending on type of boundary conditions used, the relevant tangential components to sides are 0. That might be why. For example, if a perfect magnetic conductor(pmc) boundary was employed at the left wall of the waveguide above, then Hy component at that wall would be 0 due to pmc condition and so on. Similar situation with the pec condition.
 

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