Proton Volts vs. Electron Volts: Impact on Energy Measurement

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The discussion centers on the implications of measuring energy in proton volts versus electron volts. While both units represent energy changes for particles with equal but opposite charges, the electron volt is the standard measurement used in practice. The key point is that the energy change is the same for both protons and electrons due to their equal charge magnitude, making the distinction largely semantic. The conversation highlights that the term "electron volt" is commonly accepted, even though it could be argued that "proton volt" or "positron volt" would be equally valid. Ultimately, the choice of terminology does not affect the underlying physics of energy measurement.
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Suppose scientists had chosen to measure small energies in proton volts rather than electron volts. What difference would this make?
 
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Doesn't the proton have the same charge as the electron? It's really late and I'm tired and can't think, but I'm clinging to that statement because I can't imagine how else hydrogen would be neutral. So that means the charge of the proton is just +e, whereas the electron is -e. Incidentally, the electron volt (and the proton volt, I guess) are units of energy, not charge. So your original question doesn't make sense. Scientists don't measure charge in electron volts in the first place.

The electron volt is the amount by which the energy of a particle with charge of magnitude e would change as it moved through a potential difference of one volt. The only difference between the two is that the electron would lose energy and the proton would gain energy (if the potential difference were positive i.e. if the electric potential *increased* by one volt between the starting and final positions of the charge). Vice versa if the potential difference were negative. Again, it's late, and I may have the signs wrong. You figure it out. Either way, it's irrelevant because we're just considering the *amount* by which the energy changed and using that as a unit of energy.
 
Yes, a "proton volt" would be the same as an "electron volt," as a unit of energy, because the magnitude of the charge is the same on the two particles.
 
I'll assert that we really do use protonvolts in practice, since we use (+e) times (+1v) for this unit of energy. We just call it an electronvolt.
 
Redbelly98 said:
I'll assert that we really do use protonvolts in practice, since we use (+e) times (+1v) for this unit of energy. We just call it an electronvolt.

Good call...(IMO), as far as nomenclature is concerned.
 
Of course, one could also argue we are using positronvolts :biggrin:
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks
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