I'm having trouble finding the Points of Inflection for this function

In summary, the second derivative given is y'' = (2x^5 + 4x^3 - 6x) / (x^2-1)^4 and after setting it equal to zero and simplifying, the only point of inflection occurs at (0,0). The equation x^2 = -3 does not have any real solutions.
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agv567
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Homework Statement


It asks for any Points of Inflection
The second derivative is given: y'' = (2x^5 + 4x^3 - 6x) / (x^2-1)^4

Homework Equations


The original function was x / (X^2 -1)

The Attempt at a Solution


I have set it equal to zero, and I get 2x^5 + 4x^3 - 6x = 0

I then simplified, taking out the 2, as well as factoring out an x

leaving me with

x(x^2 + 3)(x^2 -1)...

I get a weird answer though...x^2=-3 does not exist...and x = =+-1, are vertical asymptotes in the original function

help?

Homework Statement


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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help...anyone ;_;
 
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agv567 said:
help...anyone ;_;
Hi agv567. Welcome to PF.

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  • #4
agv567 said:

Homework Statement


It asks for any Points of Inflection
The second derivative is given: y'' = 2x^5 + 4x^2 - 6x / (x^2-1)^4
This can be simplified further. Also, are you sure the numerator isn't
2x5 + 4x3 - 6x?

agv567 said:
I then simplified, taking out the 2, as well as factoring out an x

leaving me with

x(x^2 + 3)(x^2 -1)...

I get a weird answer though...x^2=-3 does not exist...and x = =+-1, are vertical asymptotes in the original function
There's one more factor to check, the one in bold above.
 
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EDIT: I'm an idiot

And POI can't occur at asymptotes, right? so -1 or 1 are not POI?

and x = 0...so the only POI occurs at (0,0), right? I checked with my calculator and it seems so.But what about the x^2 = -3 equation? Since it does not exist...I do nothing with it?
 
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agv567 said:

Homework Statement


It asks for any Points of Inflection
The second derivative is given: y'' = 2x^5 + 4x^2 - 6x / (x^2-1)^4

Homework Equations


The original function was x / (X^2 -1)


The Attempt at a Solution


I have set it equal to zero, and I get 2x^5 + 4x^2 - 6x = 0

I then simplified, taking out the 2, as well as factoring out an x

leaving me with

x(x^2 + 3)(x^2 -1)...

I get a weird answer though...x^2=-3 does not exist...and x = =+-1, are vertical asymptotes in the original function

help?

You have a typo in that second derivative. It's y'' = (2x5 + 4x3 - 6x) / (x^2-1)^4

That should fix-up your problem!

Also, please use proper parentheses. Otherwise what you would have is equivalent to: [itex]\displaystyle 2x^5 + 4x^3 -\frac{6x}{(x^2-1)^4}[/itex]
 
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Thank you so much. I see my mistake now and how it confused everyone haha. I still don't understand what to do with the x^2 = -3, though.
 
  • #8
x2=-3 doesn't have any real number solutions !
 

What is a Point of Inflection?

A Point of Inflection is a point on a graph where the concavity changes. It is where the curve changes from being concave up to concave down or vice versa.

Why are Points of Inflection important?

Points of Inflection are important because they help us understand the behavior of a curve. They can tell us where a curve changes direction and help us identify maximum and minimum points.

How do I find the Points of Inflection for a function?

To find the Points of Inflection for a function, you can take the second derivative of the function and set it equal to zero. Solve for the x values and plug them back into the original function to find the corresponding y values.

What if I can't find any Points of Inflection for a function?

If you are having trouble finding Points of Inflection for a function, it is possible that the function does not have any Points of Inflection. Some functions do not have any Points of Inflection or have an infinite number of them.

Can a Point of Inflection be at the end of a curve?

Yes, a Point of Inflection can be at the end of a curve. It is possible for a curve to change concavity at the end point, resulting in a Point of Inflection. However, this is not always the case and it is important to analyze the function to determine if there are any Points of Inflection at the end points.

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