Implications of mass energy not being conserved for ##\beta^+## decay

In summary, ##\beta^{+}## decay is a type of decay where a proton decays into a neutron, positron, and electron neutrino. While it may seem to violate the conservation of mass energy, it is allowed because the conservation of energy takes into account both mass and kinetic energy. Therefore, this type of decay is not forbidden.
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Homework Statement
Beta + decay
Relevant Equations
Beta + decay
##\beta^{+}## decay (a proton decays to a neutron + positron + electron neutrino) is a decay in which mass energy is not conserved.

I've been taught that if that ought to be the case for a decay/reaction, it would be forbidden (please see solution manual below):

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But ##\beta^{+}## decay is observed to happen.

What am I missing here?
 
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JD_PM said:
Homework Statement: Beta + decay
Homework Equations: Beta + decay

What am I missing here?
Kinetic energy.
 
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Orodruin said:
Kinetic energy.

To get the maximum kinetic energy for the positron (for instance) we have to assume that the neutron has no kinetic energy so that momentum is conserved like:

$$p_{ntr} = p_e$$

Where ntr means neutrino.

Was your comment pointing at this assumption?
 
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JD_PM said:
To get the maximum kinetic energy for the positron (for instance) we have to assume that the neutron has no kinetic energy so that momentum is conserved like:

$$p_{ntr} = p_e$$

Where ntr means neutrino.

Was your comment pointing at this assumption?
No. There is no such thing as ”mass conservation” in the sense of needing the sum of the masses of individual particles to be the same before and after. The appropriate conservation law is energy and this has contributions from both the masses and the kinetic energies of the particles. So when you are just comparing the sums of the individual masses, you are missing kinetic energy.
 
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OK I see it now thanks. Then this reaction is not forbidden, because energy (mass+ kinetic energies) is conserved for Beta + decay, right?
 
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Yes
 

1. What is the principle of conservation of mass energy?

The principle of conservation of mass energy states that the total amount of mass and energy in a closed system remains constant over time. This means that mass and energy can change forms or be transferred between objects, but the total amount remains the same.

2. How does beta decay violate the principle of mass energy conservation?

In beta decay, a neutron in an atom's nucleus decays into a proton, an electron, and a neutrino. This process results in the conversion of a small amount of mass into energy, violating the principle of mass energy conservation.

3. What are the implications of mass energy not being conserved in beta decay?

The implications of mass energy not being conserved in beta decay include a violation of one of the fundamental laws of physics and a challenge to our understanding of the universe. It also has practical applications, such as in nuclear energy and medical imaging.

4. How do scientists reconcile the violation of mass energy conservation in beta decay?

Scientists have developed the concept of mass-energy equivalence, described by Einstein's famous equation, E=mc^2, to reconcile the violation of mass energy conservation in beta decay. This principle states that mass and energy are interchangeable and that the total amount remains constant.

5. What other processes violate the principle of mass energy conservation?

In addition to beta decay, other processes that violate the principle of mass energy conservation include nuclear reactions, which involve the conversion of mass into energy, and the annihilation of particles and antiparticles, which results in the complete conversion of mass into energy.

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