In search of a very detailed physics book

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding detailed physics books suitable for introductory study, with an emphasis on free resources. Participants share recommendations and express preferences for various texts while exploring the legality and availability of these resources.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a detailed, introductory physics book, preferably free, and asks for recommendations.
  • Another participant strongly recommends the NPTEL courses for their depth compared to Khan Academy.
  • Some participants suggest "Fundamentals of Physics" by Halliday and Resnick as a comprehensive introduction.
  • Concerns are raised about the legality of accessing "Fundamentals of Physics" on archive.org, with discussions about copyright and fair use.
  • One participant prefers "Resnick & Halliday, Physics" over "Fundamentals of Physics" due to more challenging problem sets.
  • Feynman's Lectures are mentioned as a potential resource, though some argue they may not be suitable for all audiences.
  • Ben Crowell's free physics books are suggested as another option for detailed study.
  • Alonso and Finn's "Fundamental University Physics" is mentioned as a resource that provides thorough derivations and explanations, though it may be math-heavy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various preferences for different physics texts, with no consensus on a single recommended book. There are ongoing discussions about the legality of certain resources and differing opinions on the suitability of specific texts for different audiences.

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Participants highlight concerns regarding copyright status and the legality of accessing certain textbooks online. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the depth and accessibility of recommended materials.

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Readers interested in detailed physics study, particularly those looking for introductory resources, free materials, or discussions on the legality of educational content.

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Hello everyone,
I've been watching the Khan Academy physics lectures and although they're nice (does anyone know a better one?) I'd like to get much deeper into the details of everything.
So please if any of you knows a book, preferably available for free, which is really detailed and of an introductory style, do share!
 
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If you talk about anything but http://www.nptel.ac.in (National Programme on Technology Enhanced Learning), an initiative by the Ministry of Human Resource Development, Govt. Of India.

Just go to the http://www.nptel.ac.in/course.php page, search for a course with keywords, and hit enter. There are two types of courses: Web course and Video course. You can choose the appropriate filters from the lists. You'll get a list of courses. Choose one course and start from there.

I've added a lot of courses from NPTEL in PF gallery. The lectures go into much more detail than Khan Academy.

Happy Knowledge Hunting!
 
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archaic said:
I'd like to get much deeper into the details of everything.
Then you must read a book on string theory, because it's the only candidate theory of everything. :biggrin:

Now seriously, a good comprehensive introduction to physics is provided e.g. by Halliday and Resnick, Fundamentals of Physics.
 
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Wrichik Basu said:
If you talk about anything but http://www.nptel.ac.in (National Programme on Technology Enhanced Learning), an initiative by the Ministry of Human Resource Development, Govt. Of India.

Just go to the http://www.nptel.ac.in/course.php page, search for a course with keywords, and hit enter. There are two types of courses: Web course and Video course. You can choose the appropriate filters from the lists. You'll get a list of courses. Choose one course and start from there.

I've added a lot of courses from NPTEL in PF gallery. The lectures go into much more detail than Khan Academy.

Happy Knowledge Hunting!
I remember visiting the NPTEL website, will give it a try.
Thank you!

Demystifier said:
Then you must read a book on string theory, because it's the only candidate theory of everything. :biggrin:

Now seriously, a good comprehensive introduction to physics is provided e.g. by Halliday and Resnick, Fundamentals of Physics.
Thank you, I've ound the book on archive.org (have you recommended this book only to satisfy the "preferably free" demand? If you have another book in mind, which is not necessarily available for free, please do tell!
 
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archaic said:
Thank you, I've ound the book on archive.org (have you recommended this book only to satisfy the "preferably free" demand?
Actually, I didn't know that the book is on archive. In fact, I've just tried to find it on archive and I failed. Are you sure that you found that book on archive an not on some illegal Russian site? :wink:
 
Demystifier said:
Actually, I didn't know that the book is on archive. In fact, I've just tried to find it on archive and I failed. Are you sure that you found that book on archive an not on some illegal Russian site? :wink:
Yes of course, <<link removed by Mentor, see post below>>
 
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Apparently Fundamentals of Physics is still being sold on amazon, so I guess the archive.org upload might be not totally legal ..?
 
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archaic said:
Apparently Fundamentals of Physics is still being sold on amazon, so I guess the archive.org upload might be not totally legal ..?
From their FAQ, in the section "Rights":

we cannot give ironclad guarantees as to the copyright status of items in our Collections and cannot guarantee information posted on item details or collection pages regarding copyright or other intellectual property rights. Our terms of use (https://www.archive.org/about/terms.php) require that users make use of Internet Archive's Collections at their own risk and ensure that such use is non-infringing and in accordance with all applicable laws.

From their Terms of Use:

Some of the content available through the Archive may be governed by local, national, and/or international laws and regulations, and your use of such content is solely at your own risk. You agree to abide by all applicable laws and regulations, including intellectual property laws, in connection with your use of the Archive. In particular, you certify that your use of any part of the Archive's Collections will be limited to noninfringing or fair use under copyright law.

I'm pretty sure that using a textbook for serious study does not fall under "fair use". That term usually refers to using brief extracts for commentary or criticism, e.g. quoting a few sentences in a post here, as I've often done.

I see no indication on the page for the Halliday/Resnick/Walker book that the upload was approved by the publishers or authors.

Accordingly, I'll remove the direct link from a preceding post. We obviously can't prevent people from finding that book, or others, there for themselves.
 
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Gee - Why Not Feynman's Lectures:
http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/

BUT you must have done calculus and be aware it is exactly what you asked for - for better or worse ie not for the feint hearted.

Thanks
Bill
 
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bhobba said:
Gee - Why Not Feynman's Lectures:
As we already discussed elsewhere, Feynman is great for physics majors but not so good for others (e.g. engineers).
 
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archaic said:
So please if any of you knows a book, preferably available for free, which is really detailed and of an introductory style, do share!
 
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Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics. All 3 volumes. Everything is derived! Very neat explanations. Can be really math heavy. Uses Calculus extensively.
 
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