Incident Angle Limitation Derivation in Optical Fibre

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The discussion focuses on deriving the angle of limitation in optical fibers, specifically the equation sinθ = [(n2^2 - n3^2)^(1/2)] / n1, where n1, n2, and n3 represent the refractive indices of air, the fiber core, and the fiber wall, respectively. Participants emphasize the application of Snell's Law at both the entry and internal reflection points to find the critical angle for total internal reflection. The conversation includes a breakdown of the geometry involved and the necessary trigonometric identities to connect the angles. A key identity used is cos(θ) = (1 - sin²(θ))^(1/2) to simplify the derivation. The thread concludes with a successful conversion of the mathematical expressions to LaTeX for clarity.
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Homework Statement


derive the angle of limitation sinθ=[(n2^2-n3^2)^1/2]/n1

n1 is the air out side of the fibre
n2 is inside of the fibre
n3 is the fibre wall

Homework Equations



Snells Law:

n1sinθ1=n2sinθ2



The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty stuck and don't really know where to go after getting the angles from geometry. I have pi/2-θ2 for the angle of reflection off of the optical wall. So I put this angle into Snells Law then just kind of get stuck.
 
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Eats Dirt said:

Homework Statement


derive the angle of limitation sinθ=[(n2^2-n3^2)^1/2]/n1

n1 is the air out side of the fibre
n2 is inside of the fibre
n3 is the fibre wall
First (for those of us unfamiliar with this topic), please describe the path of the light rays of interest. Better still, provide a diagram.
Snells Law:

n1sinθ1=n2sinθ2
Not quite.
When you have that corrected, use it at both the point of entry and at the point of internal reflection. (What is the minimum angle of incidence to get internal reflection? )
Connect the two using cos2 = 1 - sin2.
 
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haruspex said:
First (for those of us unfamiliar with this topic), please describe the path of the light rays of interest. Better still, provide a diagram.



Snells Law: n1Sin(θi)=n2Sin(θt) where t is the transmitted and i is the incident ray and their angles are measured relative to the normal of the surface.
 

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Ok I think I've got it,

\sin\theta

n_1\sin\theta_i=n_2\sin\theta_t

Known that the critical angle is \arcsin(\frac{n_2}{n_1})
\arcsin(n3/n2)=\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta_2
\theta_2=\frac{pi}{2}-\arcsin(\frac{n3}{n2})

n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\theta_2)\\<br /> <br /> n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\frac{pi}{2}-\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2}))\\

use the identity \sin(A-B)=sinAcosB-cosAsinB

<br /> <br /> n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\frac{pi}{2})\cos(\arcsin(\frac{n3}{n2}))
use the identity \cos(\arcsin(x))=(1-x^2)^\frac{1}{2}\\ <br /> n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)^\frac{1}{2}\\<br /> <br /> \sin(\theta_i)=\frac{n_2}{n_1}(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)^\frac{1}{2}\\<br /> <br /> \sin(\theta_i)=\frac{1}{n_1}((n_2)^2-(n_3)^2)^\frac{1}{2}

Thanks for your help haruspex!
 
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Converted to LaTeX for easier reading :wink:
##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\theta_t)##

Known that the critical angle is ##\arcsin(\frac{n_2}{n_1})##[general case]
so ##\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2})=\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta_2##
##\theta_2=\frac{pi}{2}-\arcsin(n_3/n_2)##

##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\theta_2)##
##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\frac{\pi}{2}-\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2}))##
use the identity ##\sin(A-B)####=####sinAcosB-cosAsinB##

##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin\frac{\pi}{2}\cos(\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2})##
use the identity ##\cos(\arcsin(x))=(1-x^2)^\frac{1}{2}##
##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)##
##\sin(\theta_i)=\frac{n_2}{n_1}*(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)##

##\sin(\theta_i)=\frac{1}{n_1}*((n_2)^2-(n_3)^2)^\frac{1}{2}##
 
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adjacent said:
Converted to LaTeX for easier reading :wink:

I edited my earlier message to convert it to latex :) took me a while as I have only used it a few times prior.
 
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