Incline Plane Problem given mass, friction, 2 velocities

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The problem involves a solid mass sliding down an incline plane, with given parameters including mass, coefficient of kinetic friction, and velocities at two points. The participants are tasked with determining the forces acting on the mass, its acceleration, and the angle of the incline.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the gravitational force and normal force but questions how to find the angle of the incline without additional information. They express uncertainty about using kinematic equations due to the presence of friction.
  • Some participants suggest that constant acceleration equations can be applied since all forces are constant, and they encourage using these to find acceleration first.
  • There is discussion about the complexity of solving for the angle, with suggestions to avoid horizontal and vertical components in favor of along-the-slope and perpendicular-to-the-slope approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is a focus on clarifying the use of kinematic equations in the context of friction and the incline, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to find the angle.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has not provided the angle of the incline, which is a critical piece of information for solving the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of physics principles in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A solid mass weighing 50 kg slides down an incline plane with the coefficient of kinetic friction being 0.05. The velocity is measured to be 2.00 m/s and 5.00 m/s at two points 15 m apart. What are the A) Magnitude and direction of all forces action on the solid mass B) Acceleration of the mass and C) Angle the plane is inclined at?


Homework Equations



Fg = mg
Fn = mgcos(theta)
fs = (uk x Fn)
mgsin(theta)

F = ma



The Attempt at a Solution


So far I have the force of gravity (Fg) being mg = (50kg)(-9.81 m/s^2) but Fn = mgcos(theta), and since this is not given how would I go about calculating this? Also for part B, I was under the impression that since there is kinetic friction, using the kinematic equations would not work in this situation. Any help is much appreciated!
 
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Hi TehDarkArchon! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have a mu: µ anad a theta: θ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
TehDarkArchon said:
… for part B, I was under the impression that since there is kinetic friction, using the kinematic equations would not work in this situation.

All the forces are constant (including the friction), so the acceleration is constant, and the standard constant acceleration equations apply.

Use one of them to answer B first, then call the angle θ and answer A and C …

what do you get? :smile:
 
Thank you very much for the prompt response, and sorry about not taking the time to get a good understanding of the formatting before posting =\ For B I used the equation vf2 = vo2 + 2ad, which in my case is rearranged to get (25 m/s - 4 m/s)/(2 x 15 m) giving me 0.700 m/s2. I am confused about the angle though...should I use another kinematic equation and solve for time and then split the plane into horizontal and vertical components? It seems pretty complicated that way..
 
Hi TehDarkArchon! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
TehDarkArchon said:
For B I used the equation vf2 = vo2 + 2ad, which in my case is rearranged to get (25 m/s - 4 m/s)/(2 x 15 m) giving me 0.700 m/s2.

Yup! :biggrin:
Im confused about the angle though...should
I use another kinematic equation and solve for time and then split the plane into horizontal and vertical components? It seems pretty complicated that way..

Forget about horizontal and vertical …

in problems like this, use along-the-slope and perpendicular-to-the-slope instead!

There's zero acceleration perpendicular-to-the-slope, so that tells you what N is (as a function of θ), that gives you the friction force, and then you use Ftotal = ma along-the-slope, and solve for θ so that a = 0.7. :wink:
 

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