Inclined slope, b degrees

But you should also state "relative to the slope" instead of just "relative".In summary, the conversation discusses determining the acceleration of two masses placed on a sloped incline with various coefficients of friction. The equations for the normal force and friction force for each mass are provided, and the expressions for the acceleration of each mass are determined. It is also clarified that the accelerations are relative to the slope.
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devanlevin
as in the diagram below, mass m1 is placed above mass m2 on a sloped incline with an angle of b degrees. the frictional coefficient between the two masses is C1 and the coeficient between mass 2 and the slope is C2.
find the acceleration of the masses.

http://picasaweb.google.com/devanlevin/DropBox?authkey=sbH95pBl_D8#5273088118963403586

after dividing the vectors into components i said
N1=(m1)gcosb
f1=(C1)(m1)gcosb

N2=N1+(M2)gcosb=(M1+M2)gcosb
f2=(C2)(M1+M2)gcosb

for mass 1
F=m1gsinb-f1=m1a
=(m1)gsinb-(C1)(m1)gcosb=m1a

a1=g(sinb-C1cosb)=gcosb(tgb-C1)
meanin that when C1 is equal to tanb, body 1 will not move relative to body 2 or will not move relative to the slope?

now for body2

F=m2gsinb+f1-f2=m2a------> is this correct??
after opening i get

a2=m2gcosb(tgb-C2)+m1gcosb(C1-C2) is this correct?
 
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devanlevin said:
a1=g(sinb-C1cosb)=gcosb(tgb-C1)
meanin that when C1 is equal to tanb, body 1 will not move relative to body 2 or will not move relative to the slope?

The expression for a1 is correct. However, when C1=tan(b), a1 will be zero. a1 is not the velocity, it is the ______ .

a2=m2gcosb(tgb-C2)+m1gcosb(C1-C2) is this correct?

Should be "m2 a2" on the left side. Otherwise it looks good.
 
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a1 is the acceleration, sorry, m1 will not accelerate, but is it relative to the slope or rellative to m2, ie will a1 relative to the a person standing on the slope be
1) a1=g(sinb-C1cosb)=gcosb(tgb-C1) or
2) a1=g(sinb-C1cosb)=gcosb(tgb-C1) + a2

and a2=[m2gcosb(tgb-C2)+m1gcosb(C1-C2)]m2

so a2=gcosb[(tgb-C2)+(m1/m2)(c1-C2)] relative to the slope
 
  • #4
a1: Since you have accounted for all the forces when you got a=Fnet/m, the expression you had is the acceleration. (1) is correct.

a2: looks good.
 

1. What is an inclined slope?

An inclined slope is a surface that is tilted or slanted at an angle from the horizontal plane.

2. How is the degree of an inclined slope measured?

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