Indefinite integral of cross product of 2 function

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The discussion revolves around the indefinite integral of a cross product involving functions, specifically focusing on the integral of the form $$\int v \frac{d^2v}{dt^2} dt$$. Participants are attempting to clarify the problem statement and the notation used in the context of vector calculus.

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  • Some participants question the clarity of the problem statement and the notation used, particularly regarding the distinction between scalar and vector quantities. Others discuss the implications of integrating the cross product and the correct interpretation of the terms involved.

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If ##\vec{v} (t)## is a vector function of t, find indefinite integral
$$\int {\left(\vec v \times \frac{d^2 \vec v}{dt^2} dt\right)}$$
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Idk.
I've tried with this work in attachment. i&m not sure of my answer is correct.
 

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The problem statement is not given properly. Can you provide us proper details? If you are computing:

$$\int v \frac{d^2v}{dt^2} dt$$​

You mentioned ##dv = b(t) dt##, and then computed ##v##:

$$v = \frac{dv}{dt}$$​

You know this is inherently not correct, unless the function is specifically ##v(t) = e^t##. Don't forget about generality when writing math proofs, or computing such things.
 
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Zondrina said:
The problem statement is not given properly. Can you provide us proper details? If you are computing:
$$\int v \frac{d^2v}{dt^2} dt$$​
The thread title says cross product.
 
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Integrate all the remaining terms, and you get a sum of antiderivatives that subtract from the other terms.

I still dislike how we use X for multiplication, and cross product every time I see it, sorry for the confusion.
 
@agnimusayoti , I think you confused everyone with your unfortunate choice of notation, using v (no arrow) for ##\frac{d\vec v}{dt}## and u for ##\vec v##.
Where your algebra goes wrong is in handling ##\int \frac{d\vec v}{dt}\times d\vec v##. The correct result becomes obvious if you write it as ##\int \frac{d\vec v}{dt}\times \frac{d\vec v}{dt}dt##
 

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