Independence of path of line integral

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Homework Statement
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The attempt at a solution
\frac{\partial P}{\partial y}=\frac{2y}{x^3}
\frac{\partial Q}{\partial x}=\frac{2y}{x^3}
\frac{\partial Q}{\partial x}=\frac{\partial P}{\partial y}

According to my notes: Both functions are continuous, except at x=0.
My tentative explanation: This is due to the denominator in \frac{2y}{x^3} which will make the fraction equal to infinity at x=0. Therefore the functions won't be continuous at x=0. Is this explanation correct?

Apparently, at this stage, i am free to choose whatever path i please. I'm going to start from path y=1 (1,1) to (2,1) and then move up the path x=2 (2,1) to (2,2).

Then, i do direct substitution:
I=\int^2_1\frac{11}{x^3}\,dx+\int^2_1 -\frac{5}{4}\,ydy
Is this correct?
After i did the integration, i get the final answer: -\frac{87}{8} but it's wrong.
 
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I think if your line integral is path independent, you can use the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus as your vector field is just a gradient field of a scalar function.
 
I don't understand what you're talking about.
 
The correct answer is: -9/8

For the path i chose in the first post, the graph is like this:
http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120117/K2c405Y4.jpg

I think you're wrong about the path going "under" the origin, as the line x=0 is the y-axis. So the graph is not allowed to cross the y-axis but can go under the x-axis. Correct?
 
If the answer is 9/4, then what is wrong with my calculation from post #1?
Is this expression correct?
I=\int^2_1\frac{11}{x^3}\,dx+\int^2_1 -\frac{5}{4}\,ydyAnd no one answered this:
sharks said:
According to my notes: Both functions are continuous, except at x=0.
My tentative explanation: This is due to the denominator in \frac{2y}{x^3} which will make the fraction equal to infinity at x=0. Therefore the functions won't be continuous at x=0. Is this explanation correct?
 
Can anyone help?
 
sharks said:
If the answer is 9/4, then what is wrong with my calculation from post #1?
Is this expression correct?
I=\int^2_1\frac{11}{x^3}\,dx+\int^2_1 -\frac{5}{4}\,ydy

It is correct, and the result is 9/4. How did you get different result? Show details.

ehild
 
Hi ehild!:smile:
\int^2_1\frac{11}{x^3}\,dx=\int^2_111x^{-3}\,dx=-\frac{11}{2x^2}=\frac{33}{8}
\int^2_1 -\frac{5}{4}\,ydy=-\frac{5y^2}{8}=-\frac{15}{8}
\frac{33}{8}-\frac{15}{8}=\frac{9}{4}
Indeed, the answer is \frac{9}{4}. However, in my notes, the answer is -\frac{9}{8} for this problem. It must be a mistake in my notes.
 
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Your notes are wrong then. It happens... :smile:

And the functions are not continuous at x=0, because of the x in the denominator.

ehild
 
  • #10
ehild said:
And the functions are not continuous at x=0, because of the x in the denominator.

To confirm my suspicions on this:

For example, if \frac{\partial P}{\partial y}=\frac{\partial Q}{\partial x}=\frac{2x}{y^2}
Then, the functions are not continuous at y=0.

And if \frac{\partial P}{\partial y}=\frac{\partial Q}{\partial x}=\frac{2x}{x+y^2}
Then, the functions are not continuous at (0,0).

Are my conclusions correct?
 
  • #11
I do not get you. What functions are you talking about? Of course, the functions P and Q are not continuous where the denominator is zero (x=0). So you need to use such path for integration which does not include x=0.

ehild
 
  • #12
In my post #12 above, i just gave 2 random examples, as i wanted to understand that it's really the denominator from \frac{\partial P}{\partial y} and \frac{\partial Q}{\partial x} which determine whether the functions P and Q are continuous or not. Since there is also x^3 and x^2 in the denominators from the original problem. I'm sorry if this seems a bit confusing.
 
  • #13
sheriff89 said:
P and Q not being continuous depends on THEIR expression having x^3 or x^2 at the denominator.

Ah OK! Thanks for this clarification, sheriff89.:smile:
 
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