Inflation and Gaussian CBR pertubations

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between cosmic inflation and the nature of cosmic microwave background (CMB) perturbations, specifically whether Gaussian fluctuations can exist without inflation. Participants explore theoretical implications and alternative models regarding the generation of these fluctuations.

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  • Some participants express skepticism about the necessity of inflation for generating Gaussian initial perturbations, suggesting that alternative processes could also produce such fluctuations.
  • One participant mentions that a homogeneous gas in equilibrium can exhibit Gaussian fluctuations, questioning the assertion that only non-Gaussian perturbations would be observed without inflation.
  • Another participant proposes string gas cosmology as an alternative model that could generate Gaussian fluctuations through thermal processes.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of topological defects as a source of non-Gaussian perturbations, with references to CMB data suggesting these perturbations are ruled out.
  • Participants discuss the need for additional examples and references to support claims about Gaussian fluctuations in the absence of inflation.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the necessity of inflation for Gaussian fluctuations and the validity of alternative models.

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I have been exploring the paper:
Statistical Tests for the Gaussian Nature of Primordial Fluctuations Through CBR Experiments
http://lss.fnal.gov/archive/1993/pub/Pub-93-294-A.pdf .
Here is a quote.
Cosmic inflation [1], on one hand, provides a natural way to generate Gaussian initial perturbations [2]; spontaneous symmetry breaking, on the other hand, will lead to the formation of topological defects [4] via Kibble mechanism [3], and the perturbations generated by topological defects can be characterized as non-Gaussian.​
The four references are:
[1] A. Guth, Whys. Rev. D 23, 347 (1981); A. Linde, Phys. Left. B 108, 389 (1982); A. Albrecht and P. J. Steinhardt, Phys. Rev. Left. 48, 1220 (1982).
[2] J. M. Bardeen, P. J. Steinhardt, and M. S. Turner, Phys. Rev. D 28, 679 (1983); A. Guth and S-Y Pi, Phys. Rev. Lett. 49, 1110 (1982); S. Hawking, Phys. Lett. B 115, 295 (1982); A. A. Starobinskii, Phys. Lett. E 117, 175 (1982).
[3] T.W.B. Kibble, J. Phys. A9, 1387 (1976).
[4] For a review, see A. Vilenkin, Phys. Rep. 121, 263 (1955); N. Turok, Phys. Rev. Zett. 66 262.​

I confess I have reservations about inflation being a theoretically necessary era of the early universe expansion. The arguments I have seen supporting inflation seem to all involve it's ability to provide explanations of phenomena that seem to me to not necessarily require an explanation. One example: it explains why scientists so far are unable to discover evidence for any of the hypothetical magnetic monopole particles.

I am wondering if the article cited above is just another of this kind of explanation, or if it is instead a theoretically well accepted phenomenon that without inflation only non-Gaussian CBR perturbations would be observed. I understand that I might possibly find the answer to this in the cited references, but I have several problems.
1. I do not know how to interpret the citations to find the references.
2. I think it likely that i may not have any convenient access to the references.
3. I think it likely that i won't be able to understand the content of these references.​

I am hoping someone here at the PFs will be able to explain to me the rationale for the hypothesis that:
without inflation only non-Gaussian CBR perturbations would be observed.​

I would much appreciate any help anyone can offer.

Regards,
Buzz
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
I am hoping someone here at the PFs will be able to explain to me the rationale for the hypothesis that:
without inflation only non-Gaussian CBR perturbations would be observed.​
I don't see how a statement like this could possibly be true in general. Without inflation, I can come up with any number of alternative processes in the early universe that generate Gaussian fluctuations (a homogeneous gas in equilibrium exhibits Gaussian fluctuations, for one). If the argument is that topological defects formed through spontaneous symmetry breaking will inevitably generate non-Gaussian perturbations on top of these, maybe, but such perturbations are already ruled out by CMB data (perturbations are dominantly isocurvature, there is generically a large vector component, there are no correlations on superhorizon scales, etc.)
 
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bapowell said:
Without inflation, I can come up with any number of alternative processes in the early universe that generate Gaussian fluctuations (a homogeneous gas in equilibrium exhibits Gaussian fluctuations, for one).
Hi @bapowell:
Thank you for confirming my reservations.

Can you help me find additional examples of processes that would generate Gaussian fluctuations, and cite some references that I (hopefully) I might be able to understand?

Regards,
Buzz
 
I believe that string gas cosmology, a well-known alternative to inflation (with, however, far fewer advocates) can produce them as simple thermal fluctuations. I mean, even if all you had was a plasma in equilibrium sitting in the early universe doing nothing, you'd get Gaussian fluctuations. So the presence of Gaussian fluctuations alone is not strong evidence for inflation: it's Gaussian fluctuations along with all the other things it gets right: near scale invariant spectrum of adiabatic perturbations, superhorizon polarization correlations, flatness, and so on.
 
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bapowell said:
So the presence of Gaussian fluctuations alone is not strong evidence for inflation: it's Gaussian fluctuations along with all the other things it gets right: near scale invariant spectrum of adiabatic perturbations, superhorizon polarization correlations, flatness, and so on.
Hi @bapowell:
Thanks for the list. I will try to find some references, and perhaps I will be able to understand them.

Regards,
Buzz
 

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