Initial horizontal velocity of the boat

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the motion of a model boat in a water tank. The boat has an initial horizontal velocity of 20 ft/s, and its horizontal acceleration varies linearly from -40 ft/s² at time t=0 to -6 ft/s² at time t=t(1), remaining constant at -6 ft/s² until t=1.4s. The goal is to determine the value of t(1) given that the velocity is 6 ft/s at that time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss finding the acceleration as a function of time and integrating it to relate changes in velocity. There are attempts to clarify the implications of linear variation in acceleration and how it relates to the area under the acceleration-time graph. Some participants express confusion about the integration process and the trapezoidal area calculation.

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The discussion includes various attempts to approach the problem through integration and area calculations. Some participants provide hints and guidance regarding the trapezoidal area under the acceleration curve, while others express difficulty in applying these concepts. There is no explicit consensus on the solution yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note that the problem involves specific constraints, such as the linear variation of acceleration and the need to integrate over time to find velocity. There is also mention of the second part of the problem regarding the position of the model at t=1.4s, indicating ongoing exploration of related concepts.

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in a water tank involving the launching of a small model boat,the model's initial horizontal velocity is 20ft/s and its horizontal acce varies linearly from -40ft/s^2 at t=0 to -6ft/s^2 at t=t(1) then remains equal to -6ft/s^2 until t=1.4s.Knowing that v=6ft/s when t=t(1), determine the value of
t(1)

pls help.
the answer is 0.609s
 
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Find the accn. as a function of time (Assume t(1) = T or something else).
Then put it equal to dv/dt. Integrate. Put limits of time as (0,T) and velocity as (20,6).
 
no,still can't get.somebody pls help
 
teng125 said:
in a water tank involving the launching of a small model boat,the model's initial horizontal velocity is 20ft/s
Until here, the problem tells you that the initial horizontal velocity of the boat is 20 ft / s.
and its horizontal acce varies linearly from -40ft/s^2 at t=0 to -6ft/s^2 at t=t(1)
What does the phrase varies linearly tell you? If you plot the graph of acceleration - time, then from t = 0 to t = t(1), do you get a straight line or what?
then remains equal to -6ft/s^2 until t=1.4s.
I dunno, but I have a feeling that you don't need this.
Knowing that v=6ft/s when t=t(1), determine the value of
t(1)
If v = 6ft / s. Can you find t(1)?
Hint, you need to integrate [tex]\Delta v = \int \limits_{0} ^ {t(1)} a(t) dt[/tex].
Hint: it's a right trapezoid. Can you find the area of it?
Then you may also need to use the equation: [tex]v = v_0 + \Delta v[/tex]
Can you go from here? :)
 
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what u mean is it -40t(1) = final velocity - initial velocity??
40t(1) = 6ft/s - 20ft/s
 
teng125 said:
what u mean is it -40t(1) = final velocity - initial velocity??
40t(1) = 6ft/s - 20ft/s
You are close, but it's neither 40t(1) nor -40t(1).
The area under the graph of a(t) from 0 to t(1) is the area of a right trapezoid. Do you see why?
I'll give you another big hint, how can one find the area of a right trapezoid? What are the length of the parallel sides, what's the height of that right trapezoid?
Hopefully, you can go from here, right? :)
 
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is it 6(1.4-t(1) )??no,still can't find it.pls tell me
thanx
 
teng125 said:
is it 6(1.4-t(1) )??no,still can't find it.pls tell me
thanx
Okay, take out a pen and some paper, varies linearly means that if you plot an acceleration - time graph, you will get a straight line (that's what linear means).
So at t = 0, yor acceleration is -40 ft / s (that means the line goes through the point (0; -40)), and at t = t(1), your acceleration is -6 ft / s (that means the line goes through the point (t(1), -6)). t(1) is some positive value, just choose it randomly.
Now just connect the 2 point (0; -40), and (t(1), -6), you'll have a line. That line shows you the acceleration on the interval [0; t(1)], right? And it's a right trapezoid.
The area of a trapezoid is:
[tex]A = \frac{1}{2} (a + b) h[/tex]
The parallel sides' lengths are 40, and 6. The height is t(1). Do you see why? Just look at your graph.
But since the trapezoid is under the x-axis, so:
[tex]\Delta v = \int \limits_{0} ^ {t(1)} a(t) dt = -A_{\mbox{trapezoid}}[/tex]. Do you know why?
So you'll have:
[tex]\Delta v = \int \limits_{0} ^ {t(1)} a(t) dt = -A_{\mbox{trapezoid}} = -\frac{1}{2} (40 + 6) t(1)[/tex].
Now it's almost there (I almost show you the answer :smile:). Can you go from here? :)
If you have any problem understanding anything from my post, just shout it out. :)
 
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oh.got it.thank you very much
 
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while for the second part,what is the position of the model at t=1.4s??
what formula can i use
 
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teng125 said:
while for the second part,what is the position of the model at t=1.4s??
what formula can i use
Now, just do it step by step. You may want to express the velocity of the boat in terms of t, so you are looking for a function v(t). Then just integrate that, and you'll have the displacement of the boat.
[tex]d = \int \limits_{0} ^ {1.4} v(t) dt[/tex]
Now the problem is how can you find v(t)?
Hint, you need to find a(t) first, then integrate that, and solve for v(t).
Can you go from here?
 

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