Initial velocity and time of motion through water

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To determine the initial velocity required for a ball to sink to a depth of 4 meters after being dropped from a height of 1 meter, classical mechanics equations are used. The time to fall through the air is calculated as t_1 = √(2h/g), while the time to sink in water is t_2 = √(2s/g). The difference in time, t_2 - t_1, is found to be 0.451 seconds. The ball's density of 770 kg/m^3 is relevant for understanding buoyancy and the forces acting on the ball in the fluid. The discussion emphasizes that the initial velocity must be factored in as the ball enters the water, requiring a more comprehensive approach than free-fall equations alone.
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Homework Statement


What initial velocity has to have a ball at the height h=1m in order to sink in the water to depth of s=4m? How long is the motion of a ball through water? A ball is made of material that has density \rho=770 kg/m^3. Surface tension and friction are negligible.

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Classical mechanics - free fall

The Attempt at a Solution


Ball will fall on water surface after t_1=\sqrt{\frac{2h}{g}}.
Time of falling to the bottom of water is t_2=\sqrt{\frac{2s}{g}}.
Motion through the water is t_2-t_1=0,451 s.
Is this correct?
How to find the initial velocity? Why is the density of a ball \rho given?
 
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Yes, you are correct in that you use classical mechanics. However, you must also think about other forces that could be present, not just gravity.
What forces are exerted on an object partially or totally immersed in a fluid? How would density be relevant?
 
I would say, no, the time formulas quoted are for object's Free-Falling from rest. The problem states that the ball has an initial {unknown} velocity when dropped in air from a height = 1 m. Then it will also have the necessary initial velocity when it enters the water to drive it down a distance = s = 4 m. Both in air and in water formulas are of the form: d = Vo(t) + 1/2gt²
 
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