Inner and Outer Spacewhere does it begin, your opinion.

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The discussion revolves around the definitions of "inner space" and "outer space," particularly focusing on where these concepts begin and end in relation to Earth's atmosphere and gravitational influence. Participants explore various definitions and criteria used in different contexts, including astronaut qualifications and orbital dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that inner space is defined by the gravitational pull of the Earth, while outer space is where this pull diminishes, raising questions about the definitions of these terms.
  • Another participant notes that NASA does not use the term "inner space" and emphasizes that there is no strict boundary between the atmosphere and space, with gravitational influence never truly reaching zero.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that "inner space" historically referred to areas beneath the ocean's surface.
  • One participant cites an orbital dynamics class definition that sets the boundary at 130 km, indicating this altitude allows for temporary orbit.
  • Another participant expresses that the 100 km definition may not be as useful as the 130 km definition for practical purposes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the definitions and boundaries of inner and outer space, with no consensus reached on a singular definition or boundary.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the lack of a universally accepted definition for the transition between inner and outer space, as well as the dependence on context, such as astronaut criteria and orbital mechanics.

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OK, so I work for an organization that deals with "space" 24/7 and controls satellites. We had a discussion today on whether INNER/OUTER SPACE starts at 100Km above the Earth or where the atmosphere becomes a complete vacuum. NASA says 50 miles...ect...

My opinion is that Inner Space can be defined where the gravitational pull of the Earth reaches and Outer Space is where the gravitational pull diminishes. Some argued this point with "Our Solar System is acted upon gravitational pull by the Sun, the Milky way Galaxy and even the Universe."

So where does it begin/end? Can this even be defined? Again...this seems to be a "your opinion" answerable question so...what is it?
 
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I've never heard of "inner space" and I'm pretty sure NASA doesn't use a term like "outer space".

In any case, there is no strict boundary between the atmosphere and space and there is no distance at which the Earth's gravitational influence drops to zero. For the purpose of putting a criteria on who can be considered an astronaut, "space" is defined to be 100 km up.
 
Back in the day inner space referred to under the surface of the ocean.
 
I took a orbital dynamics class last year, and our definition was 130 km because that's apparently the lowest altitude at which an object can achieve temporary orbit.
 
Welcome to PF...

That's, imo, a better definition than 100km because getting up to 100km doesn't really do anything useful for you.
 

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