Integral in cylindrical coordinates

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The discussion revolves around calculating an integral in cylindrical coordinates, specifically for a region defined by the inequalities of two surfaces: a sphere and a hyperboloid. Participants are exploring the appropriate bounds for integration in different orders.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to establish the correct bounds for integration in cylindrical coordinates and are questioning the validity of their proposed limits. There is a discussion about the order of integration and the implications of choosing different orders.

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Some participants have provided insights into the challenges of integrating with respect to z first, noting the need for multiple integrals due to the nature of the functions involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the geometric interpretation of the region defined by the surfaces.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment that requires them to provide integrals for both orders of integration. There is an emphasis on understanding the geometric implications of the surfaces involved.

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Homework Statement



I need to calculate the integral where the region is given by the inside of x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 2 and outside of 4x^2 + 4y^2 - z^2 = 3

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So far, I think that in cylindrical coordinates (dzdrdtheta):

0 <= theta <= 2pi
sqrt(3)/2 <= r <= 1
-sqrt(2-r^2) <= z <= sqrt(2-r^2)

Are the bounds for the radius and z correct?
 
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ravenea said:

Homework Statement



I need to calculate the integral where the region is given by the inside of x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 2 and outside of 4x^2 + 4y^2 - z^2 = 3

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So far, I think that in cylindrical coordinates (dzdrdtheta):

0 <= theta <= 2pi
sqrt(3)/2 <= r <= 1
-sqrt(2-r^2) <= z <= sqrt(2-r^2)

Are the bounds for the radius and z correct?

Do you know what this figure looks like? If you look at the surfaces you should see that you don't want to do the dz integral first, on the inside. Do you see why? And don't forget the ##r## in your cylindrical volume element.
 
In the order drdzdtheta, i get:

0 <= theta <= 2pi
sqrt(z^2 + 3)/2 <= r <= sqrt(2-z^2)
-1 <= z <= 1

I understand your point, the radius varies from z = -1 to z = 1 because of the hyperboloid, but the exercise is asking me to give the integrals for both orders: dzdrdtheta, drdzdtheta

Thanks for the help.
 
If you look at a cross-section in the ##z-r## plane you will see that ##z## is a two-piece function of ##r## on both the top and bottom. So doing ##z## first will require two integrals for ##dz##.
 

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