Integral Over all Space for Charge Density - Exponential Fun

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The problem involves finding the charge density from a given electric field described by E = C e^{-br}/r^2 and integrating it over all space to demonstrate that the result is zero. The context is rooted in electromagnetism, specifically in the application of Gauss's law and charge density calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the charge density using the divergence of the electric field and integrating over all space. They express uncertainty about their integration results and consider the implications of using a delta function.
  • Some participants question the correctness of the electric field's representation and the coordinate system used for calculations.
  • Another participant identifies a mistake in using Cartesian coordinates instead of spherical coordinates for the divergence operation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some have provided corrections and clarifications regarding the coordinate system and the representation of the electric field. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants continue to seek clarity on the integration process and the implications of their findings.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the integration limits and the application of the delta function in the context of the problem. The original poster also expresses uncertainty about whether they are correctly identifying the charge Q they are trying to find.

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Homework Statement



The electric field is described by E = \frac{C e^{-br}}{r^2},
find the charge density and then integrate over all-space and show it's zero.
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Homework Equations



E = \frac{C e^{-br}}{r^2} \\ \\
\nabla \cdot E = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon_0} \\ \\
\rho(r) = Q \delta^3 (r-r_0) \\ \\[/B]
I_{AllSpace} = \int_{0}^{\infty}\:f(r,\phi,\theta) \: r^2 \: dr \: sin\theta \: d\theta \: d\phi \\ \\
\nabla = \frac{d}{dr} \hat{r} \\ \\
\int_{0}^{\infty}f(r)Q \delta^3(r-r_0)dr = f(r_0) \\ \\

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to take \nabla E = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon_0} and used the quotient solve for \rho(r) and then integrated over all space and I do not get a zero.

With \nabla \cdot E = (\frac{-e^{-ar}}{r} \:(ra+2))
\rho(r) = (\frac{-e^{-ar}}{r} \:(ra+2)) \: \epsilon_0

and integrating over all space gives me

4\pi \int_{0}^{\infty}\rho(r) \: r^2 \: dr

and this gives me (-1 + undefined) \: \epsilon_0

my only other idea here is to use the delta function, which in the case of the radial integral does give me a zero due to the r^2 term being evaluated at zero.

E_{AllSpace} = 4\pi \int_{0}^{\infty}\rho(r) \: r^2 \: dr = 4\pi Q \int_{0}^{\infty} \delta^3(r-r_0)r^2 \:dr = 0

This second solution seems a bit short but I think it is still valid, I'm not sure if my first attempt if I made a mistake on the integral or if there is some other way of doing this? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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KleZMeR said:
The electric field is described by E = \frac{C e^{-br}}{r^2},
find the charge density and then integrate over all-space and show it's zero.
What's the direction of the electric field vector? You stated it as if it's a scalar.
 
Ahh yes, it is in the \hat{r} direction.
 
OK, so I found an issue and corrected for it, I was using \nabla in cartesian coordinates, and it should have been in spherical.

My result after using spherical component for r from \nabla, I get

\rho(r)_{AllSpace} = 4\pi \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{-bA}{\epsilon_0 } e^{-br} = A

but I noticed that if I still use the delta function I get the desired answer of zero, but I think it is Q that I am trying to find? Any help is appreciated.
 

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