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Homework Statement
Evaluate
[tex] \int_0^1\frac{\arctan t}{t\sqrt{1-t^2}}dt[/tex]
The Attempt at a Solution
I suspect I need to subsitute something but what?
The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral \(\int_0^1\frac{\arctan t}{t\sqrt{1-t^2}}dt\), which involves techniques from calculus, particularly integration and substitution methods. Participants are exploring various approaches to simplify or solve the integral.
The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and insights. Some have provided hints and partial solutions, while others express uncertainty about the methods being used. There is recognition of the complexity of the integral, and multiple interpretations and approaches are being explored without a clear consensus on a solution.
Participants note the difficulty in finding a primitive for the integral and discuss the implications of using computational tools like Mathematica. There is mention of specific substitutions and derivatives that might lead to a clearer path forward, but no definitive resolution has been reached.
I've tried your suggestions and failed to get an integral which I can solve...CompuChip said:I'm getting a little lost in trig identities, so I haven't looked into it very much. But have you tried t = tan(x) to get rid of the arctan, or t = sin(x) or cos(x) to get rid of the square root ?
FedEx said:Its cos(2Theta) and not cos(theta)
FedEx said:After doing that bring the entire term in terms of alpha. You will get
[tex]\int\frac{1}{(\frac{1-{\alpha}^2}{\alpha})(\sqrt{{\alpha}^2 +1})}[/tex]
Do this with partial fractions.
PS I have not written the 2's and root 2's coming in the equation
FedEx said:You will have to apply parts before the above substitution. So that we will get rid of the [tex]\theta[/tex]
CompuChip said:You get rid of it in the integration by parts, I presume.
dirk_mec1 said:In the IBP: integrate w.r.t. to what?
FedEx said:You will have to apply parts before the above substitution. So that we will get rid of the [tex]\theta[/tex]
Cyosis said:FedEx could you show us how you did the integration by parts. I have tried to get rid of [tex]\theta[/tex] as you suggest, but it doesn't seem to lead to a manageable integral.
Cyosis said://
You should be able to rearrange the integrand so you recognize the arctangent. Note that we now have f'(a). Now try to find the answer of your original integral with a=1.
dirk_mec1 said:I agree, Fedex you've made mistake somewhere.
Cyosis said:I am pretty sure FedEx has made a mistake integrating by parts and as a result his method seems to lead to a dead end. CompuChip's analysis with mathematica should give us a clue that there exists no primitive to the integral. However there is a smart trick to get an exact value for the definite integral from 0 to 1.
First we define the function [tex]f(a) = \int_0^1 \frac{\arctan(a t)}{t \sqrt{1-t^2}}[/tex] with [tex]a \geq 0[/tex]. Then take the derivate of f(a) with respect to a and use the substitution [tex]t=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+u^2}}[/tex].
[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> f'(a) & = \int_0^1 \frac{1}{a^2 t^2+1} \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-t^2}}\,dt<br /> \\<br /> & = - \int_{\infty}^0 \frac{1}{(\frac{a^2}{1+u^2}+1) \sqrt{1 - \frac{1}{1+u^2}}} \frac{u}{(1+u^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}\,du<br /> \\<br /> &= \int_0^{\infty} \frac{du}{a^2+1+u^2}<br /> <br /> \end{align*}[/tex]
You should be able to rearrange the integrand so you recognize the arctangent. Note that we now have f'(a). Now try to find the answer of your original integral with a=1.
snipez90 said:Hmmm I also pursued n!kofeyn's first step but I'm lost on how to deal with arctan(sinx). I can work with the limits of integration but there must be another clever step (or maybe easy) that I'm missing. I'll look at this later.