Integral Problem: Solve $\int\sqrt{\frac{1+t^{2}}{1-t^{2}}}\,dt$

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The discussion revolves around the integral $\int\sqrt{\frac{1+t^{2}}{1-t^{2}}}\,dt$, which is related to elliptic functions and integrals. Participants are exploring the nature of this integral and its connection to elliptic integrals.

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  • Participants discuss the integral's inability to be expressed in terms of elementary functions and introduce elliptic functions as a potential avenue for exploration. Various substitutions, such as $t=\sin(u)$, are suggested to transform the integral into a more manageable form related to elliptic integrals.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about the transformation of the integral and its relation to elliptic integrals. Some guidance has been provided regarding substitutions and the definition of elliptic integrals, but there is no consensus on a complete solution yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of elliptic integrals and the transformations necessary to relate the original integral to known forms. There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and properties of elliptic functions without arriving at a final solution.

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hello.please solve this integral:
$ \int\sqrt{\frac{1+t^{2}}{1-t^{2}}}\,dt $
 
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footmath said:
hello.please solve this integral:
$ \int\sqrt{\frac{1+t^{2}}{1-t^{2}}}\,dt $
It cannot be done in terms of so-called "elementary" functions (powers, roots, trig functions, inverse trigs, logs, exponentials, etc.). Have you heard of Elliptic functions?

RGV
 
I have heard the Elliptic function .
please explain to solve this integral.
 
Let t=sin(u) and then dt = cos(u) du. Substitute those in for every t and dt you find. Some stuff should cancel out, and what you have left is very close to the definition of the elliptic function (of the second kind), given below.

[tex]E(\phi, m) = \int_0^\phi \sqrt{1 - m sin^2(\theta)} d\theta[/tex]

You just need to pick the right value for m.
 
this problem at the beginning was: int_(sinx)^1/2 which transformed to $ A=\int\sqrt{1+\sin^{2}x}\,dx $ -\int_1/{1+\sin^{2}x} and then transformed to $ \int\sqrt{\frac{1+t^{2}}{1-t^{2}}}\,dt $
 
The form you'll want it in is [itex]\int \sqrt{1 + sin(\theta)^2} d\theta[/itex]. Then, setting m=-1, you'll be able to put it in terms of the Elliptic Integral of the Second Kind.
 
would you please explain the solution of elliptic integral
 
I just did. In post 4, set m=-1 and see what integral you get. It's strikingly similar to the integral you're trying to solve.
 
Thank you but I can not solve this integral:$ A=\int\sqrt{1+\sin^{2}x}\,dx $
please explain about solution .
 

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