Integrals look easy but I'm still confused

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral ∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx, with participants expressing confusion regarding their attempts and the validity of their approaches. The subject area is integral calculus, specifically focusing on integration techniques and the application of logarithmic properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss their attempts at solving the integral, with one participant questioning why their initial approach involving a logarithm was incorrect. Another participant reflects on their differentiation of a logarithmic expression, leading to further confusion. A suggestion for using u-substitution is introduced as an alternative method.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods of integration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of u-substitution, and there is acknowledgment of misunderstandings related to logarithmic integration. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the depth of their discussions and the solutions they can provide. There is also a noted misunderstanding regarding the application of logarithmic integration rules.

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Integrals...look easy but I'm still confused :(

Homework Statement


evaluate the integral ∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx


Homework Equations


dx^n/dx = nx^(n-1)


The Attempt at a Solution


∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx = 6ln[(2x+1)^3]/((2x + 1)^2) ( I know this is wrong, but why??)


∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx = -9/[(2x+1)^2)

I know the second one I did is right...but Why was the first one wrong??
 
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when I tried to differentiate 6ln[(2x+1)^3]/((2x + 1)^2) ...I get back to the same one though
 


oh sorry, nevermind...I already found what I did wrong...
 


You don't even need that natural log here, you just need a u substitution. If you were given this integral, I assume that you know what a u substitution is, but if you don't, tell me and I'll show you what's going on here.
\int \frac{36}{{2x+1)^3}}dx
36\int \frac{dx}{(2x+1)^3}
u=2x+1, du=2 dx \to dx=du/2
36\int \frac{du}{2u^3}
18\int u^{-3}du
18u^{-2}/-2+C
-9u^{-2}+C
-\frac{9}{(2x+1)^2}+C
 


daivinhtran said:

Homework Statement


evaluate the integral ∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx


Homework Equations


dx^n/dx = nx^(n-1)


The Attempt at a Solution


∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx = 6ln[(2x+1)^3]/((2x + 1)^2) ( I know this is wrong, but why??)
This is wrong because it is NOT true that
$$ \int \frac{1}{f(x)}dx = ln|f(x)| + C$$

The correct formula is
$$ \int \frac{1}{x}dx = ln|x| + C$$

Another way to write this is
## \int x^{-1}dx = ln|x| + C##

daivinhtran said:
∫(36/(2x+1)^3)dx = -9/[(2x+1)^2)

I know the second one I did is right...but Why was the first one wrong??
 

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