Integrating 1/(x^2 - 1): Confusion with Online Calculator

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of the function 1/(x² - 1) dx. Participants express confusion regarding the output from an online integrator and the expected result based on their understanding of integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the online integrator's result and question the reasoning behind their own expectations. There are mentions of using partial fractions and trigonometric substitution as potential methods for solving the integral.

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Some participants have provided guidance on methods to approach the integral, specifically suggesting partial fractions. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind different expected results, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about integration techniques and the relationship between the integral and its antiderivative forms. There is a noted confusion regarding the application of logarithmic properties in the context of integration.

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Homework Statement

I need to find the integral of 1/(x2 - 1) dx


The attempt at a solution

Double checking on an online integrator, it gave me an answer of

1/2 [log(x-1) - log(x+1)]

I would have expected

log(x2-1)/2


Does anyone know why it's the first one?
 
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abite said:
Double checking on an online integrator,

That's fine, but have you tried it? This integral can easily be done either by partial fractions or trig substitution.
 
abite said:
Homework Statement

I need to find the integral of 1/(x2 - 1) dx


The attempt at a solution

Double checking on an online integrator, it gave me an answer of

1/2 [log(x-1) - log(x+1)]

I would have expected

log(x2-1)/2
Why would you have expected this? Were you thinking that your integral looked like [itex]\int du/u?[/itex]
If you were thinking along those lines, with u = x^2 - 1, you don't have anything remotely close to du to make this work.

It is NOT true that
[tex]\int \frac{dx}{f(x)} = ln |f(x)| + C[/tex]

If you weren't thinking that, never mind...
abite said:
Does anyone know why it's the first one?
 
In any case, please try partial fractions and get back to us with the result.

[tex]\frac{1}{x^2- 1}= \frac{1}{(x-1)(x+1)}= \frac{A}{x-1}+ \frac{B}{x+1}[/tex]

What are A and B?
 

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