Integrating -2x Over (1-x^2)^(1/2): A Confusing Challenge

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The original poster is seeking the antiderivative of the function -2x over the square root of (1-x^2). They express confusion regarding the integration process, particularly questioning the existence of product or quotient rules for integrals similar to those in derivatives.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest making a substitution to simplify the integral, specifically letting u = 1-x^2. Others question how to determine appropriate substitutions for u and du.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing potential substitution strategies and the reasoning behind them. There is an emphasis on the trial-and-error nature of finding suitable substitutions, with some guidance provided on recognizing when a substitution might be effective.

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The original poster mentions being new to integrals, which may influence their understanding of the concepts being discussed. There is also a focus on the specific structure of the integral and how it relates to the substitution method.

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Find the antiderivative of:

-2x
(1-x^2)^(1/2)

That's -2x over all of that... Bleh, i suck at code.

But anyway.. I just started integrals, and this is confusing for me... Is there a product or quotient rule in integrals like there is in derivatives?.. if not? how do you work this?
 
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Make a substitution, let u = 1-x2 then du = -2x and you have a fairly simple integral in terms of u.
 
Here is the code for it in case you need to use it in the future (click to see code)

[tex]\int\frac{-2x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \ dx[/tex]
 
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how do you know what to make u and what to make du?
 
By thinking and analyzing the problem! The difficulty is that [itex]\sqrt{1- x^2}[/itex] in the denominator. The very first thing you should have thought about was substituting for that: u= 1- x^2. Then you would immediately see that du= -2xdx and that would work only if you had an xdx already in the problem (the "-2" is a constant and you can move constants in and out of the integral- you can't do that with "x", the x has to already be there) and, indeed, the problem has an "xdx". Lucky you!

(Once you've decided what to try for u, you don't "decide" what du is- that follows from the derivative of u. Notice I said "try"- you can seldom look at an integral and know what substitution will work. A lot of it is trial and error.)
 

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