Integrating 8sin4x: A Step-by-Step Solution Guide

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function 8sin(4x). Participants are exploring the use of trigonometric identities and substitution methods to simplify the integral.

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  • Participants discuss substituting trigonometric identities, particularly using the identity for sin²(x). There is uncertainty about the next steps after initial attempts, with suggestions to apply double angle identities and to check for sign errors in the expressions derived.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the integration problem. Some participants have provided guidance on using double angle identities, while others are questioning the accuracy of the transformations made in previous steps. The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations being considered.

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Homework Statement



∫8sin4x dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


8∫sin2xsin2x

I'm not really sure what to do next. Maybe substitute a 1-cos2x in for one of the sin2x? Maybe both?
 
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jdawg said:

Homework Statement



∫8sin4x dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


8∫sin2xsin2x

I'm not really sure what to do next. Maybe substitute a 1-cos2x in for one of the sin2x? Maybe both?

That sort of integration involves using double angle identities in trig. Look them up and try and get started.
 
jdawg said:

Homework Statement



∫8sin4x dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


8∫sin2xsin2x

I'm not really sure what to do next. Maybe substitute a 1-cos2x in for one of the sin2x? Maybe both?

Do you know the relations

\sin^2(x)=\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2} and \cos^2(x)=\frac{1+\cos(2x)}{2}

ehild
 
Ok, so I plugged in (1-cos(2x))/2 for both of my sin2x and then foiled.
This is what I have now:
2∫1+cos22x+2cos2x dx
 
jdawg said:
Ok, so I plugged in (1-cos(2x))/2 for both of my sin2x and then foiled.
This is what I have now:
2∫1+cos22x+2cos2x dx

No, that's not what you get. There's a sign problem. But the important point is that you can use the double angle identities on ##\cos^2(2x)## as well.
 
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Oh, so it should be: 2∫1+cos22x-2cos2x dx
Then: 2∫cos22x-cos2x dx
Now could you split up your integrals and solve them individually?
 
jdawg said:
Oh, so it should be: 2∫1+cos22x-2cos2x dx
Then: 2∫cos22x-cos2x dx
Now could you split up your integrals and solve them individually?

Of course you can split them up and solve them individually. That's the whole point. But now what happened to the "1" part? And a factor of 2 also disappeared. Just take it step by step.
 
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