Integrating a trigonometric integral with multiple variables

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a trigonometric integral involving multiple variables, specifically the integral of the form \(\int^{\pi /2}_0 \dfrac{x \cos x \sin x}{(a^2 \cos^2 x + b^2 \sin^2 x)^2} dx\). Participants explore various methods and substitutions to simplify the integral.

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  • Participants discuss using integration by parts and substitutions, such as \( \tan x = t \), to simplify the integral. There are attempts to eliminate the variable \( x \) from the integral, and some participants express uncertainty about the symmetry introduced by the parameters \( a \) and \( b \).

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The discussion is ongoing, with several participants offering different methods and insights. Some express confidence in their approaches, while others question the validity of certain steps and assumptions. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the complexity introduced by the parameters \( a \) and \( b \) and the potential challenges in applying properties of definite integrals due to changes in the integrand's structure. There is also mention of previous threads and solutions, indicating a broader context of ongoing learning.

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Homework Statement


[itex]\displaystyle \int^{\pi /2}_0 \dfrac{xcosxsinx}{(a^2 cos^2 x+b^2 sin^2 x)^2} dx[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



2I = [itex]\displaystyle \int^{\pi /2}_0 \dfrac{xcosxsinx}{(a^2 cos^2 x+b^2 sin^2 x)^2} + \dfrac{(\pi /2 -x)cosxsinx}{(a^2 sin^2 x+b^2 cos^2 x)^2} dx[/itex]

How to simplify after this?
 
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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


[itex]\displaystyle \int^{\pi /2}_0 \dfrac{xcosxsinx}{(a^2 cos^2 x+b^2 sin^2 x)^2} dx[/itex]

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



2I = [itex]\displaystyle \int^{\pi /2}_0 \dfrac{xcosxsinx}{(a^2 cos^2 x+b^2 sin^2 x)^2} + \dfrac{(\pi /2 -x)cosxsinx}{(a^2 sin^2 x+b^2 cos^2 x)^2} dx[/itex]

How to simplify after this?

I couldn't think of a smarter way but the following should work.

You can write the given integral as
[tex]\int_0^{\pi/2} \frac{x\tan x \sec^2x}{(a^2+b^2\tan^2x)^2}dx[/tex]
Use the substitution ##\tan x=t## and then integrate by parts.

And what about your previous thread? Did you get the answer? :rolleyes:
 
^Are you trying to get the antiderivative? It is easy to get rid of the x in front by integrating by parts, but the new integral is hard. Perhaps the bounds can be used, but the a and b break the symmetry.
 
lurflurf said:
^Are you trying to get the antiderivative? It is easy to get rid of the x in front by integrating by parts, but the new integral is hard. Perhaps the bounds can be used, but the a and b break the symmetry.

Yes, I am trying to find the antiderivative. The new integral isn't hard but only a bit lengthy (I think).

The new integral after substitution,
[tex]\int_0^{\infty} \frac{\arctan t\cdot t}{(a^2+b^2t^2)^2}dt[/tex]

This can be solved using integration by parts.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
I couldn't think of a smarter way but the following should work.

You can write the given integral as
[tex]\int_0^{\pi/2} \frac{x\tan x \sec^2x}{(a^2+b^2\tan^2x)^2}dx[/tex]
Use the substitution ##\tan x=t## and then integrate by parts.

And what about your previous thread? Did you get the answer? :rolleyes:

Yes I got the answer of previous question.
 
I found a shorter method.

Solve the given integral using integration by parts with ##u=x## and ##v## be the rest i.e
[tex]x\int \frac{\sin x \cos x}{(a^2\cos^2x+b^2\sin^2x)^2}dx-\int \left(\int \frac{\sin x \cos x}{(a^2\cos^2x+b^2\sin^2x)^2}dx\right)dx[/tex]

Use the substitution, ##(a^2\cos^2x+b^2\sin^2x)=t## that should give the answer.
 
utkarshakash said:
Yes I got the answer of previous question.

This question is very easy by utkarshakash's method but he got afraid to see the big size of his integrand. :p

I too at first thought would use his method.

After simplifying you get,

2I=...This will eliminate x. No need to integrate by parts. :)

Hint: Then use the substitution as Pranav suggested. Take sqrt(denominator)=t...
 
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sankalpmittal said:
This will eliminate x.

No. How do you conclude that?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
No. How do you conclude that?

Isn't is obvious ?

Let

I=π/20∫{xcosxsinx}/{(a2 cos2 x+b2 sin2 x)2} dx

Then applying the property of definite integration,

I=π/20∫{(π/2-x)cosxsinx}/{(a2 cos2 x+b2 sin2 x)2} dx

On adding,

2I= I=π/20∫{π/2cosxsinx}/{(a2 cos2 x+b2 sin2 x)2} dx

Now take, a2 cos2 x+b2 sin2 x=t
 
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sankalpmittal said:
Then applying the property of definite integration,

I=π/20∫{(π/2-x)cosxsinx}/{(a2 cos2 x+b2 sin2 x)2} dx

[tex]\cos(\pi/2-x)=\sin x[/tex]
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
[tex]\cos(\pi/2-x)=\sin x[/tex]

So what ?

cos x changes to sin x but sin x also changes to cos x. The net result remains, what I typed in my previous post. I have done such type of questions.
 
  • #12
sankalpmittal said:
So what ?

cos x changes to sin x but sin x also changes to cos x. The net result remains, what I typed in my previous post. I have done such type of questions.

You ignored the denominator when you applied the property.
 
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sankalpmittal said:
So what ?

cos x changes to sin x but sin x also changes to cos x. The net result remains, what I typed in my previous post. I have done such type of questions.

No. You are going the wrong way. Note that though cos x and sin x interchange, the coefficents are also reversed. [itex]a^2 cos^2 x + b^2 sin^2 x[/itex] changes to [itex]a^2 sin^2 x + b^2 cos^2 x[/itex]. Now you can't just add the numerator simply. You know what I mean.
 
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utkarshakash said:
No. You are going the wrong way. Note that though cos x and sin x interchange, the coefficents are also reversed. [itex]a^2 cos^2 x + b^2 sin^2 x[/itex] changes to [itex]a^2 sin^2 x + b^2 cos^2 x[/itex]. Now you can't just add the numerator simply. You know what I mean.

Did you arrive at the answer? :smile:
 
  • #15
Pranav-Arora said:
Did you arrive at the answer? :smile:

I got the answer by your method. Thanks!
 
  • #16
utkarshakash said:
I got the answer by your method. Thanks!

Glad to help!
 
  • #17
utkarshakash said:
No. You are going the wrong way. Note that though cos x and sin x interchange, the coefficents are also reversed. [itex]a^2 cos^2 x + b^2 sin^2 x[/itex] changes to [itex]a^2 sin^2 x + b^2 cos^2 x[/itex]. Now you can't just add the numerator simply. You know what I mean.

Oh, I ignored the denominator when I applied the property ! :redface:

However, when you integrate by parts, you can also divide both sides by cos4x, and then take tan2(x) = t. This will simplify the integrand to a mere identity.
 

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