Integration by parts SinIntegral[x]

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the integral of SinIntegral[x] from 0 to t using integration by parts. Participants explore the implications of the integration by parts formula and the properties of the Sinc function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different choices for u[x] and v'[x] in the integration by parts formula, noting that both approaches lead to more complex integrals. One participant suggests using integration by parts twice, while another questions the understanding of the Sinc function.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the Sinc function, which has helped clarify the problem for one participant. However, others still express confusion and uncertainty about the correct approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the requirement to use integration by parts specifically, and some participants note that they are working within the constraints of a Calculus II course.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the following integral exactly (no approximations) by the method of integration by parts:

0t SinIntegral[x] dx

Homework Equations



the following hints are given:

D[SinIntegral[x], x] = Sinc[x]; and
SinIntegral[0] = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



The integration by parts forrmula is ∫abu[x]v'[x]dx = u[x]v[x]|ab-∫abv[x]u'[x]dx.

The problem I have is that whether I let u[x]=1 and v'[x]= SinIntegral[x], or u[x]=SinIntegral[x] and v'[x]= 1, either way the integral on the right is more complex than what I started with (either ∫0txSinc[x]; or ∫0tSinIntegral[x].

Any help is appreciated. I hope all the programming tags work here, otherwise this will look like a mess. It may still look like a mess

So it seems to me that, although the question requires the differentiation by parts method, such method does not work because it you get more complicated integrals
 
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Wait, maybe I undertstand it. Do you have to use integration by parts method twice? i.e., letting u[x] = SinIntegral[x], and v^\[Prime][x] = 1; u^\[Prime][x] = Sinc[x] ; v[x] = x
Which after applying the formula would get you to tSinIntegral[t] - ∫0tSinc[x]dx.

Then you run the integration by parts once again to find n = ∫0tSinc[x]dx.


Then the final answer will be tSinIntegral[t] - n?

This seems a little tedious, but the question specifically asks you to use the integration by parts formula, so I am guessing this must be it, unless I am missing something obvious... which is usually the case.
 
nope. Still stuck
 
Do you know what Sinc(x)․x is ?
 
Thanks Sammy. I had never encoutered the Sinc Function before. After your hint, and a little help from google, I found that Sinc[x]= (Sin[x])/x. So xSinc[x] should be Sin[x], which makes the problem much easier. I think that should have been another hint given, I'm only working in Calc II ;).
 
Is it sin int(t)*t+cos(t)-1? since D(sin int(x))=sinc(x)=sin(x)/x, u=sin int(x). If you look a int^udv=uv-int^v*du, du is on the RHS.
 

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