Internal Energy of 1 mole of Ideal Gas

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The discussion revolves around the internal energy of 1 mole of an ideal gas contained in a one-litre cylinder, with a focus on the average kinetic energy of the gas molecules given as 0.1 eV. Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and internal energy in the context of thermodynamics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the implications of the average kinetic energy for a single molecule and question how to calculate the total energy for all molecules in the gas. There is discussion about the absence of work done and changes in energy, temperature, volume, or pressure.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the calculation of total energy based on the average kinetic energy and the need to consider all molecules. There is acknowledgment of the relationship between kinetic energy and internal energy, with some participants suggesting adjustments for the total number of molecules.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the First Law of Thermodynamics and its relevance to the discussion, as well as the clarification that the internal energy of an ideal gas cannot be negative.

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Homework Statement


One litre cylinder contains 1 mole of the ideal gas molecules having the average kinetic energy of 0.1eV. What is the total energy of this gas?

Homework Equations


W = K + U

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured because the cylinder is closed, no stated temperature change, or volume/pressure change, there is no work? So U=-K
K = 0.1eV = 1.6 x10-20J.
Therefore, U = -1.6x10-20 J.

Is this line of thinking correct? Can it really be that simple..
 
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You are given the average kinetic energy of a single molecule. You are asked for the total energy of all of the molecules in the cylinder.
 
Symara Cyr said:

Homework Statement


One litre cylinder contains 1 mole of the ideal gas molecules having the average kinetic energy of 0.1eV. What is the total energy of this gas?

Homework Equations


W = K + U

Is that supposed to be ##W=\Delta K +\Delta U##? In other words work equals change in energy?

Regardless, your reasoning is correct in that there is no work done and no change in energy, temperature, volume or pressure. But the question is not asking about how much the energy changes. It's asking what the energy is.

The energy of an ideal gas is the sum of the kinetic energies of the gas molecules.
 
Mister T said:
Is that supposed to be ##W=\Delta K +\Delta U##? In other words work equals change in energy?

Regardless, your reasoning is correct in that there is no work done and no change in energy, temperature, volume or pressure. But the question is not asking about how much the energy changes. It's asking what the energy is.

The energy of an ideal gas is the sum of the kinetic energies of the gas molecules.

So, U = -1.6x10-20 J is for a single molecule. I adjust for the rest of the molecules by multiplying my number by Avogadro's number?

and yes, that's the equation I actually meant. My apologies!
 
For an ideal gas, the internal energy is equal to the sum of the kinetic energies of all the molecules comprising the gas. Since kinetic energy is positive definite, the internal energy cannot be negative.

Chet
 
Symara Cyr said:
So, U = -1.6x10-20 J is for a single molecule. I adjust for the rest of the molecules by multiplying my number by Avogadro's number?

Yes. it's a simple exercise, not really a problem.

and yes, that's the equation I actually meant. My apologies!

You should be aware that the relation ##W=\Delta K + \Delta U## is valid only for particle-like objects, that is, objects that cannot possesses internal energy.

The more general relation is the First Law of Thermodynamics. In thermodynamics you typically treat a collection of particles, a gas for example, which does possesses internal energy.
 
Awesome, okay. Thank you everyone so much!
 

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